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Achilles 07-08-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7138938)
There you go again,'presuming' that people hate Ashleigh because they dont like her,you really dont know everything do you? I have NEVER said I hate her,I dont like her,and there is the difference.

You always deny it, yet I have seen you say you detest her and that she is vile and you post negative posts about her ALL THE TIME.

joeysteele 07-08-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7138867)
Well surely IF she has,it should have been shown aswell in all fairness.

One would be right to expect that Kazanne,in the absence of it then the assumption is probably that she didn't.
I am also sure it would be announced on bbbots had it taken place too as both Helen's warnings have been revealed on there.

jet 07-08-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7138834)
Hmm, I did think hard before I made the response to your post but I see nowhere where you acknowledge the people who did say Helen was wrong,myself being one of them.

I am really glad to hear you forcefully now condemn Ashleigh too for her aggressive behaviour.

Hands up that I was not correct as to you generalising generally,however your start to your post states 'posts on here',it does not say 'some' posts on here.

However,while things are not obviously all about me as you say,when I say something it is only my view I am expressing,
You said, you thought my posts were fair, as I also believe others were too but that expression is nowhere in your post with the fullest and total respect.

This is by far the worst BB for you and I,I accept that as I hate one person constantly attacked all the time while another who has been far from perfect is presented as someone to look up to instead.

I look up to neither of them and find both offensive at times,one I find more entertaining than the other and one I dislike for a characteristic I really reject as to people.

My apologies for upsetting you, I do try to be fair,even when it is hard to be, I have seen others do so too.
To point out the negatives as to posting one way or the other is all fine but acknowledgement that not all do so, goes a long way too.

I think the best thing for you and I to do on this is to avoid responding to each other as to these 2 housemates as we will never agree.
Anyway, thank you for taking the time to respond in the way you did above, it sounds different broken down that way I admit.
I appreciate your enlightenment as to that.

All my best to you anway.

With respect to you too, Joey, my post was about those who diverted the topic away from Helen and used Ashleigh as a means of doing so. I didn't mention those who did not do so as I take it as a given when I say SOME people and SOME posts, then those who didn't do so know I am not talking about their posts.
I wouldn't want to have to explain this every time I have an opinion on something, and I don't expect anyone else to either.

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however your start to your post states 'posts on here',it does not say 'some' posts on here.
If we are being picky, then no, that is incorrect. The start of my post says 'the posts in this thread that...' which indicate certain posts. If did not say 'posts on here' as you claim.

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I am really glad to hear you forcefully now condemn Ashleigh too for her aggressive behaviour.
I didn't say I forcefully condemned her. I didn't agree with her saying it, and she should have had a telling off for it and maybe she did. But one aggressive comment (which many people can admit to making when tired, stressed etc) is not in any way comparable to Helen's many, many episodes of aggression. She was warned for being a bully fgs. I forcefully condemn that, not Ashleigh's one and only transgression.

Anyway, thank you for you apology, though there was no need of it, it was nice of you.

It is all Helen's fault anyway. She causes trouble in the house, and she causes trouble outside of it. Trouble is her middle name. :joker: And that Ashleigh one too has a lot to answer for. :joker:
Women eh? Cause nothing but trouble for us menfolk. :laugh:

Kazanne 07-08-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7138952)
You always deny it, yet I have seen you say you detest her and that she is vile and you post negative posts about her ALL THE TIME.

Because I dont LIKE her,bloody hell:joker::joker::joker: find me a post where I have said I hate her? she is vile imo,not certain I've ever said I detest her either,I'de like that post too,when I see something nice that she does or says I will post it,not seen anything yet.

Achilles 07-08-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7139012)
Because I dont LIKE her,bloody hell:joker::joker::joker: find me a post where I have said I hate her? she is vile imo,not certain I've ever said I detest her either,I'de like that post too,when I see something nice that she does or says I will post it,not seen anything yet.

You know you fibbing, I can picture you pulling Zoe faces :laugh:

Cold Sweat 07-08-2014 08:11 PM

When is Christopher getting his warning for threatening to kick Mark up the stairs and out of the house?

Never... obviously... because just like Ashleigh there was no violent intent meant by it.

Kazanne 07-08-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7139025)
You know you fibbing, I can picture you pulling Zoe faces :laugh:

Not fibbing,you pull those posts up to me and I will apologize,I have NEVER EVER said I hate her and will be surprised if I ever said I detested her,i have called her vile,which imo sometimes she is.just for curiosities sake Do you like Pav?

Achilles 07-08-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7139103)
Not fibbing,you pull those posts up to me and I will apologize,I have NEVER EVER said I hate her and will be surprised if I ever said I detested her,i have called her vile,which imo sometimes she is.just for curiosities sake Do you like Pav?

I don't need to because I have no wish to prove it to anyone. I know myself and that's all that matters.
I don't to continue being sidetracked in the thread.
The 2 incidents are not comparable. I am not saying this because I like one housemate and hate another, I am being objective and I know I am being objective because being objective is how I roll in general day to day life. I can switch on the adoration, but I can also switch it off.

Kazanne 07-08-2014 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7139124)
I don't need to because I have no wish to prove it to anyone. I know myself and that's all that matters.
I don't to continue being sidetracked in the thread.
The 2 incidents are not comparable. I am not saying this because I like one housemate and hate another, I am being objective and I know I am being objective because being objective is how I roll in general day to day life. I can switch on the adoration, but I can also switch it off.

But that's just it you stated I hated her,prove it? you cant because it's never been said,I rest my case ,until of course you prove me wrong,even Pav now seems to be getting a feeling about here according to the twitter robot,lol.

8.36pm: Pav reckons Ashleigh is only happy in the House when someone else gets evicted on Fridays. Ouch.

Dollface 07-08-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7139137)
8.36pm: Pav reckons Ashleigh is only happy in the House when someone else gets evicted on Fridays. Ouch.

Haha omg, Pav is getting feisty :hehe:

Achilles 07-08-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7139137)
But that's just it you stated I hated her,prove it? you cant because it's never been said,I rest my case ,until of course you prove me wrong,even Pav now seems to be getting a feeling about here according to the twitter robot,lol.

8.36pm: Pav reckons Ashleigh is only happy in the House when someone else gets evicted on Fridays. Ouch.

I watch all the uploads and follow the twitter and facebook comments. I know why Pav said that. I stated in another thread that Pav is one of the cool kids since the big row that happened. If you are part of the cool kids you will act like the cool kids. It's not rocket science.
Ash said he doesn't like Christopher earlier today. Does that mean Christopher is a c *** or Ash is a c ***? :shrug:

Lex 07-08-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7139012)
Because I dont LIKE her,bloody hell:joker::joker::joker: find me a post where I have said I hate her? she is vile imo,not certain I've ever said I detest her either,I'de like that post too,when I see something nice that she does or says I will post it,not seen anything yet.

I wouldn't bother Kaz....I was in the same position with LukeB the other day, and he couldn't back his "you are always hating on a young girl" accusation either...and i'm afraid Achilles is in the same boat! ..These Ashleigh worshippers are just not capable of thinking straight this series...I think that the miserable little China-Doll must be practising some of that Irish pishogue on them! :smug:

[Oh no...i'm going to get hammered for calling her a witch now! D: ] :tongue:

Kazanne 07-08-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7139149)
I watch all the uploads and follow the twitter and facebook comments. I know why Pav said that. I stated in another thread that Pav is one of the cool kids since the big row that happened. If you are part of the cool kids you will act like the cool kids. It's not rocket science.
Ash said he doesn't like Christopher earlier today. Does that mean Christopher is a c *** or Ash is a c ***? :shrug:

Neither of them imo,in life there will be people we don't like,must admit I went off Christopher a bit after the last couple of days

Kazanne 07-08-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 7139169)
I wouldn't bother Kaz....I was in the same position with LukeB the other day, and he couldn't back his "you are always hating on a young girl" accusation either...and i'm afraid Achilles is in the same boat! ..These Ashleigh worshippers are just not capable of thinking straight this series...I think that the miserable little China-Doll must be practising some of that Irish pishogue on them! :smug:

[Oh no...i'm going to get hammered for calling her a witch now! D: ] :tongue:

:joker: lex,well they do say Like is drawn to like:thumbs:get your helmet on,the stones will be coming,LOL

MrWong 07-08-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7139144)
Haha omg, Pav is getting feisty :hehe:

Pav going to the dark side will be his undoing.

Which suits me fine as he's a **** hm :D

Marsh. 07-08-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7138887)
Maybe the fact that Helen's been warned a gazillion times before prompted them to post it. I don't call a post on Twitter "mounting evidence". In any case, context and intent would have been taken into account when they made the decision to give warnings out and it's their call. Personally, I don't much care who got a warning because they're ultimately meaningless.

How many warnings have been confirmed and televised so far? 2? This is the third.

Where's the source of her "gazillion warnings"? There isn't one. :smug: Do we know she had all those warnings? No we don't. :p

Kazanne 07-08-2014 08:41 PM

You watch Pav get loads of hate now:joker::joker::joker:

bots 07-08-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7139149)
I watch all the uploads and follow the twitter and facebook comments. I know why Pav said that. I stated in another thread that Pav is one of the cool kids since the big row that happened. If you are part of the cool kids you will act like the cool kids. It's not rocket science.
Ash said he doesn't like Christopher earlier today. Does that mean Christopher is a c *** or Ash is a c ***? :shrug:

Pav said very recently that he didn't feel comfortable with the way either group was behaving. Pav is his own man. After the way they have all behaved to him, he couldn't think anything else. If Pav is going to be in the house next week, he can do very nicely on his own

MrWong 07-08-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 7139169)
I wouldn't bother Kaz....I was in the same position with LukeB the other day, and he couldn't back his "you are always hating on a young girl" accusation either...and i'm afraid Achilles is in the same boat! ..These Ashleigh worshippers are just not capable of thinking straight this series...I think that the miserable little China-Doll must be practising some of that Irish pishogue on them! :smug:

[Oh no...i'm going to get hammered for calling her a witch now! D: ] :tongue:

:sleep::sleep::sleep:

Pretty lazy attacking the fans of Ashleigh when the threads about Helen getting a warning.

I guess it's easier than defending Helen.

Lex 07-08-2014 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7139177)
:joker: lex,well they do say Like is drawn to like:thumbs:get your helmet on,the stones will be coming,LOL


Yep!...i'm on it Kaz. :laugh:


http://www.tinfoilhat.be/tinfoilhat.jpg

Lex 07-08-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 7139191)
:sleep::sleep::sleep:

Pretty lazy attacking the fans of Ashleigh when the threads about Helen getting a warning.

I guess it's easier than defending Helen.


Helen needs NO defending...and virtually the whole ten pages of the thread has been about the variation in BB's treatment of Helen and Ashleigh!!....Keep up Wong! :smug:

Kazanne 07-08-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 7139214)
Yep!...i'm on it Kaz. :laugh:


http://www.tinfoilhat.be/tinfoilhat.jpg

:joker::joker:

MrWong 07-08-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 7139238)
Helen needs NO defending...and virtually the whole ten pages of the thread has been about the variation in BB's treatment of Helen and Ashleigh!!....Keep up Wong! :smug:

Oh so you're just trolling?

My mistake, carry on..

rionablue 07-08-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7138882)
Did you and the other people commenting actually see BOTH incidents or are you going on quotes?
Here is the difference. Ashleigh was sat at a table in a mood after having a brief tiff with Christopher. She said she felt like bashing his head on mirror. As in, she felt frustrated with him. She did not want to go into the bedroom and bash Christopher's brains in. It's like when you are trying to explain something to someone and they don't understand you can feel like you want to grab the head and knock sense into them so they understand.
With Helen is was completely different. She was pacing the bedroom and ranting about what she thought she heard Ashleigh and Chris saying. She was angry and said she felt like going in there and kicking her head in. If she wasn't on national TV there is the chance she WOULD have. The chance is very real because we know what kind of character Helen is. She is violent, aggressive and a bully. If people seriously think Ashleigh wanted to literally bang Christopher's head in the same way Helen wanted to then you are completely delusional and would make AWFUL judges in a court.

Judging our character is way out of line Achilles. It is against the rules of the forums to slate the characters or mannerisms of the posters. The forum is to discuss housemates. I called it as I see it and yes I saw both incidents. You called it the way you saw it and I did NOT hurtle insults at you or any other poster of the same opinion as you. We are all entitled to air our opinion and I take OFFENCE to the last of your post. Whether any of the girls meant what they said is not the question here. BOTH girls uttered similar words about another housemate and they should both have got a warning

Lstan 07-08-2014 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7137021)
Oh my God,I cannot believe some of the stuff I am reading,LOL people cant even admit ,that is totally double standards no matter who said it.Jesus wept.

oh there is a lot of double standards on this forum Kazanne, and ironically yes this thread appears to have proved your point :laugh:


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