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Daniel. 01-10-2015 11:28 PM

I was born to be emo

Daniel. 01-10-2015 11:29 PM

I just don't get what in my personal life would make me gay?

MB. 01-10-2015 11:29 PM

Stop arguing and enjoy cock you lot

Jordan. 01-10-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 8194427)
I just don't get what in my personal life would make me gay?

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Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194420)
I actually said in a few posts back that I didn't believe that gay babies are born. But I also don't believe that someone's environment or socialisation or how they are brought up determines their sexuality. It's like saying someone born in Brighton is going to grow and and be gay because there's a lot of gay people in Brighton

Yes, but you're focussing on ONE OF MANY factors - the fact they were born in Brighton.

We are all brought up with millions of different influences and variables that change from person to person, not just who are parents are or where we live.

No one's saying that only ONE FACTOR can affect your sexuality. It's a combination of everything. Hence no formula as each and every person is entirely unique in their circumstances and life.

Jack_ 01-10-2015 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194420)
I actually said in a few posts back that I didn't believe that gay babies are born. But I also don't believe that someone's environment or socialisation or how they are brought up determines their sexuality. It's like saying someone born in Brighton is going to grow and and be gay because there's a lot of gay people in Brighton

Well if you don't believe babies are born with a sexuality, then the only other option is for one's sexuality to be developed unconsciously in the early stages of life as a product of your surroundings. There's no in between :laugh: the second you're born socialisation begins immediately, so either you're born with your personality, mannerisms and sexuality already mapped out, or you're born as a blank slate and all of these are learned behaviour. Again, not through choice, but developed outside of the womb all the same

And that is far too simplistic :laugh: it's not like that at all

Glenn. 01-10-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8194436)
Yes, but you're focussing on ONE OF MANY factors - the fact they were born in Brighton.

We are all brought up with millions of different influences and variables that change from person to person.

No one's saying that only ONE FACTOR can affect your sexuality. It's a combination of everything. Hence no formula.

I wasn't focussing on one factor. It was example.

Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194443)
I wasn't focussing on one factor. It was example.

An example that focusses on one factor all the same.

There are too many factors in life to list them all conclusively.

Glenn. 01-10-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8194446)
An example that focusses on one factor all the same.

There are too many factors in life to list them all conclusively.

But a lot of different factors would come into play if you lived in a place with a lot of gay people.

Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194452)
But a lot of different factors would come into play if you lived in a place with a lot of gay people.

Yes, but it wouldn't be a case of "You're gay because you grew up in Brighton with lots of gay people" because someone else who also grew up in Brighton will have grown up straight or bi because outside of the fact they live in Brighton they have a million and one DIFFERENT factors all merging together to make a different person.

Hence why you can get twins with different sexualities.

Dollface 01-10-2015 11:43 PM

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Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:43 PM

Awww, see, animals can be camp as christmas too. :laugh:

LukeB 01-10-2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 8194477)

:flutter:

Glenn. 01-10-2015 11:45 PM

I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194488)
I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

I love respectful debates.

I wonder what factors make you such a ferociously defensive person....

iRyan 01-10-2015 11:49 PM

Sexuality is on a spectrum. Some people realize where they are on that spectrum as early as they can remember, others realize it much later in life.

Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194504)
I think your wrong, you think I'm wrong. Debates are completely pointless.

Not really. I don't think you're wrong, I just have a different viewpoint.

I just think the way you approach a discussion is a little.... hostile when it doesn't need to be.

Dollface 01-10-2015 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194488)
I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

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Glenn. 01-10-2015 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8194509)
Not really. I don't think you're wrong, I just have a different viewpoint.

I just think the way you approach a discussion is a little.... hostile when it doesn't need to be.

There's not a lot I can do about that. It's how I've been 'nurtured'

Jack_ 01-10-2015 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194488)
I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

:umm2:

Yes, researchers who have nothing better to do but try to theorise the world we live in in and its people in work you can't be bothered to read in order to make sense of it and try to be a progressive force for change

You can have all your stubborn 'I can't be bothered to comprehend this because it's stretches beyond what I've been taught so it must be crap!' attitude all you want. It's just a bunch of people on an internet forum who fail to understand basic societal concepts who whine on about not understanding it and so refute and ridicule it rather ironically

Is this how serious debates is supposed to work? :cheer2:

Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar (Post 8194514)
There's not a lot I can do about that. It's how I've been 'nurtured'

Correct. We've made progress. :laugh:

Although just because you've grown into an angry person doesn't mean there aren't ways you can learn to control it. :nono:

Daniel. 01-10-2015 11:54 PM

im perched for james realising he's gay soon

Dollface 01-10-2015 11:54 PM

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Marsh. 01-10-2015 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 8194522)
im perched for james realising he's gay soon

He already knows he is.

But just like most self-respecting homosexuals, he knows when a cock is full of sh*t and calling themselves Austin.

Jay. 01-10-2015 11:56 PM

maybe some people fall out the pussy and get scared of it

and some like it

idk i've not read any of this and i don't know anything about it to possibly comment


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