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Kizzy 10-04-2016 10:04 AM

'Interest from his high street savings accounts amounted to £26 in 2009-10, £87 in 2010-11, £365 in 2011-12 before rising to £2,701 in 2012-13, £6,681 in 2013-14 and £3,052 in 2014-15.'

He moved some serious money prior to the election by the look of it...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6976991.html

Kizzy 10-04-2016 10:40 AM

Donation or kick back?

'David Cameron’s troubles deepened on Saturday night as a Tory donor named in the Panama Papers was revealed as a trusted middleman for a company raided by the Serious Fraud Office, which is investigating what has been described as the world’s biggest bribery scandal.

David Cameron: blame me for mishandling Panama Papers news
Prime minister tells Tory forum he should have handled offshore fund revelations better as protesters call for resignation
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Javad Marandi, who with his wife has donated nearly £250,000 to the Conservatives, appears in a series of emails leaked from the offices of oil services business Unaoil.'

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016...bribes-inquiry

Kizzy 10-04-2016 10:43 AM


DemolitionRed 10-04-2016 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8604739)

Good link Kizzy. You can't help but love this man but I really wish he'd stop taking large breaths through his nostrils. :hehe:

Kizzy 10-04-2016 11:24 AM

Yes I noticed he does that :laugh: Maybe he's not well? aw get well soon jez x

joeysteele 10-04-2016 11:46 AM

Of course just another point,'if' anyone is doing anything dubious or wanting to keep quiet financially related about, especially as to 'tax'.

Then it is not going to be on any tax returns since they will not want tax authorities knowing about it anyway.

Not saying the PM has anything to answer as to this issue post 2010 now,to give him some benefit of doubt but that is the scale of the problem to even find all those not honouring the full taxes they should be.

user104658 10-04-2016 12:08 PM

How is it news that he's doing this, by the way? They're all bloody at it and all always have been. This is surely common knowledge. Honestly I despair sometimes. OK not sometimes - a lot.

I can't believe people are like "Derpy derp u wot?? These people hide monies off-shore?? OMG :omgno:".

Did people GENUINELY not realise this?

Tom4784 10-04-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8604825)
How is it news that he's doing this, by the way? They're all bloody at it and all always have been. This is surely common knowledge. Honestly I despair sometimes. OK not sometimes - a lot.

I can't believe people are like "Derpy derp u wot?? These people hide monies off-shore?? OMG :omgno:".

Did people GENUINELY not realise this?

I think it's more to do with the fact that Cameron's had the gall to lie about it AND condemn other people in the past for doing the same thing he did.

Nobody's surprised about it but now people have proof of it so now they can get angry about it and demand action.

user104658 10-04-2016 12:26 PM

Nothing will happen, though. Either it will blow over and everyone will forget / not care in 6 months time, or it'll escalate to the point where Cameron has to go (IMO unlikely) and he'll be replaced with a Tory clone. A new face for the beast but nothing will actually change at all. Although good luck to them in finding an experienced Tory who hasn't fiddled their tax at some point...

Cherie 10-04-2016 01:19 PM

Good luck with finding anyone on the planet who doesn't want to pay less tax

joeysteele 10-04-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8604937)
Good luck with finding anyone on the planet who doesn't want to pay less tax

Indeed but it doesn't make it right not to,even moreso when anyone can, from their already surplus wealth, afford to employ an individual to get round such taxes and thus avoid paying all that is due.

I said earlier, I and others would likely never be able to avoid paying some paltry sum like £10 of due taxes, so why should anyone else be able to just because they are in a more privileged position.

Being able to do it and wanting to do it does not make it right.

Although actually as to your point of finding anyone who doesn't want to pay more tax, I for one would be quite content to see my taxes raised 'IF' the raised funds were going direct to the NHS or the most vulnerable.

GiRTh 10-04-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8604937)
Good luck with finding anyone on the planet who doesn't want to pay less tax

Forty millionaires ask to raise taxes on wealthy

Cherie 10-04-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8605020)

Amazing I didn't think it was possible

Kizzy 10-04-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8605052)
Amazing I didn't think it was possible

That people with money can't be socially responsible? Bit judgy :hehe:

Cherie 10-04-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8604998)
Indeed but it doesn't make it right not to,even moreso when anyone can, from their already surplus wealth, afford to employ an individual to get round such taxes and thus avoid paying all that is due.

I said earlier, I and others would likely never be able to avoid paying some paltry sum like £10 of due taxes, so why should anyone else be able to just because they are in a more privileged position.

Being able to do it and wanting to do it does not make it right.

Although actually as to your point of finding anyone who doesn't want to pay more tax, I for one would be quite content to see my taxes raised 'IF' the raised funds were going direct to the NHS or the most vulnerable.


If we had a breakdown of our taxes like we see on a council tax bill ( I said on the on the TV licence thread that 1.60 added for social care wasn't enough) maybe people would be more likely to pay. Say for instance you could choose to direct an extra percentage into the NHS, as it stands it goes into a black hole and a lot of it gets wasted like 9 million on a pamphlet. There will always be people who will swerve the system it doesn't make it right but you can close every loophole and anther will be found. As for listening to politicians the majority are feathering their own nests in my view.

Cherie 10-04-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8605066)
That people with money can't be socially responsible? Bit judgy :hehe:

Hey I can be as judgy as the next person :hee:

Kizzy 10-04-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8605087)
Hey I can be as judgy as the next person :hee:

I noticed :idc:

Cherie 10-04-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8605101)
I noticed :idc:

:joker:

Kizzy 10-04-2016 02:40 PM

;) jk ly rly

Cherie 10-04-2016 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8605112)
;) jk ly rly

Of course right back at you Kizzy :laugh:

GiRTh 10-04-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8605052)
Amazing I didn't think it was possible

Its rare but refreshing to see.

MTVN 10-04-2016 03:00 PM

Well after all that Cameron's taxes actually show nothing of interest at all, nothing illegal and nothing that's even very shady. I see no reason why he should publish all his taxes from before he was PM - to even release what he has is pretty unprecedented and makes him by far the most transparent PM we've ever had

bots 10-04-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8605020)

40 out of a total of 319,000 :laugh: in NY, an incredibly small percentage 0.000125 %

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There are now 715,000 millionaires living in Britain compared with 508,000 in 2010, with London having the highest concentration of wealthy individuals.

arista 10-04-2016 04:03 PM

SNP have now Followed the PM
by publishing the Tax Returns
of course they are not in these Panama Leaks

joeysteele 10-04-2016 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 8605165)
Well after all that Cameron's taxes actually show nothing of interest at all, nothing illegal and nothing that's even very shady. I see no reason why he should publish all his taxes from before he was PM - to even release what he has is pretty unprecedented and makes him by far the most transparent PM we've ever had

Hmm, putting my lawyers hat on, I feel that may be a grey area.

He already had said he got rid of the funds before coming to be PM in 2010, the returns he has allowed to be issued, back him up on that there is nothing there since 2010 that may be incriminating.
He clearly pre-empted that scenario with his stating, eventually, that he sold them all in 2010.

What is not known as to before and what he tried to avoid confirming all week, as to not only he but his wife having funds there before 2010,may be a different story.
What he has allowed out is only info for after the funds were no more.

If he really wanted to put this to bed completely, in my view, and also if he really has nothing a all of interest then publish the previous 6 years too up to 2010 as well as the 6 years after 2010.
Again though,I do afford him credit for what he has done so far although it being limited.

See, to clear myself completely on this, if I were him and indeed other high faces in govt and opposition, I would have published all my returns as far back as I could possibly go to squash completely any suspicions any may have about my financial arrangements and tax.
If that is, I had not a thing to hide.


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