Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9257032)

LT, i miss you so much :(

Originally Posted by Ronald. (Post 9257034)

Same Nicky. Good to know the Netherlands are behind him, so is Wales. R.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9257030)

How could you have any experience of me infracting someone mid debate when you don't know a thing about who is actually infracting you? Like I've said a few times already, the only thing you know for certain is your own infractions, not who gave them to you or the details of other people's infractions.

Thus these are all conclusions based on bias because they aren't based on anything factual.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9256621)

Niamh :joker: I didn't say it was the only way members got infracted, you added that in youself, I said it was an area where there could be inconsistency

Originally Posted by That Girl (Post 9257035)

this thread's a heaving mess

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9257006)

Do you have evidence of this because I can't imagine where you got this idea from since you don't have any knowledge of anybody else's infractions aside from your own so how do you know that these baiting posts are overlooked? You can't know because you are drawing conclusions based on nothing.

The appeals section was removed because most people misused it to insult the mods or would waste everyone's time trying to appeal infractions that they obviously deserved. Very few people used the Appeals section correctly.

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9257062)

Liv that's disgusting someone went that low, whoever it was is scum idc if they're still on the forum either.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9257055)

I think those same people who abused the appeals section are the same ones who abuse the report button... of course, I only have anecdotal evidence about that... but I'm sure plenty of people are in a like mind.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9257055)

I have had posts removed and been warned/infracted, whilst the gloating post to which I reacted has been left there for all to see. That's how I know. I remember a joke being made about my husband aftger he died. I went lost it and my post was removed. The offending post was left there ALLLL day until I begged a mod to remove it - it was Marc, actually, who finally removed it. I have the evidence of my own experience, I don't need anecdotal evidence from anyone else. This isn't the only experience I've had of this either. And I won't be alone... So there's my evidence. Other people will have theirs too. I could find plenty of evidence of your own posts breaking forum rules and being overlooked.

If the appeals section was abused the answer is not to remove it, it is surely to put an end to its abuse. As I've said before, give people, say, 300 words max for a plea of mitigation to be look at but the mods. Once a decision has been made no other correspondence will be entered into on fear of a ban. You don't remove something for everyone because a handful of people abused it. If you don't have an appeals section then allowing one set of forum members to infract and ban another set of forum members, but not be open to any kind of punishment themselves, is ridiculous. Unless you feel that you, as a moderator on this forum, are entitled to refer to people as "dear" knowing that it's aggravating, and being personal and thoroughly unpleasant to the point of baiting... and then handing out infractions to people doing the same, is acceptable.

I think those same people who abused the appeals section are the same ones who abuse the report button... of course, I only have anecdotal evidence about that... but I'm sure plenty of people are in a like mind.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9257055)

I have had posts removed and been warned/infracted, whilst the gloating post to which I reacted has been left there for all to see. That's how I know. I remember a joke being made about my husband aftger he died. I went lost it and my post was removed. The offending post was left there ALLLL day until I begged a mod to remove it - it was Marc, actually, who finally removed it. I have the evidence of my own experience, I:fist: don't need anecdotal evidence from anyone else. This isn't the only experience I've had of this either. And I won't be alone... So there's my evidence. Other people will have theirs too. I could find plenty of evidence of your own posts breaking forum rules and being overlooked.

If the appeals section was abused the answer is not to remove it, it is surely to put an end to its abuse. As I've said before, give people, say, 300 words max for a plea of mitigation to be look at but the mods. Once a decision has been made no other correspondence will be entered into on fear of a ban. You don't remove something for everyone because a handful of people abused it. If you don't have an appeals section then allowing one set of forum members to infract and ban another set of forum members, but not be open to any kind of punishment themselves, is ridiculous. Unless you feel that you, as a moderator on this forum, are entitled to refer to people as "dear" knowing that it's aggravating, and being personal and thoroughly unpleasant to the point of baiting... and then handing out infractions to people doing the same, is acceptable.

I think those same people who abused the appeals section are the same ones who abuse the report button... of course, I only have anecdotal evidence about that... but I'm sure plenty of people are in a like mind.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9257001)

Interesting. I have stopped posting on this site, but I really can't let this pass without comment.

I wrote to you and James about a certain moderator, i tried to be constructive about it, but was met with a brick wall from both of you.

I've never been banned, that's not my issue. I do have a problem with bias and unfairness though, and its not happened once, it's repeated time after time after time.

If people are not posting on this site, its because they are being driven away in frustration. While some posters might like to test boundaries and stir things up a bit for a bit of controversy and dare I say it entertainment, there is a clique on here that use passive aggressive tactics to belittle others. The may not have broken any specific rules, but their intentions are clear as are there motives.

I've heard so often that everyone is fair etc etc, its just not true, and if you try and say anything against it you are hit with a break wall or threatened with a ban or whatever. Its laughable, it really is.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9257006)

Do you have evidence of this because I can't imagine where you got this idea from since you don't have any knowledge of anybody else's infractions aside from your own so how do you know that these baiting posts are overlooked? You can't know because you are drawing conclusions based on nothing.

The appeals section was removed because most people misused it to insult the mods or would waste everyone's time trying to appeal infractions that they obviously deserved. Very few people used the Appeals section correctly.

Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 9257069)

Let's be real LT is reading this offline and is loving the attention!

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9257086)

We're lying in bed together with hobnobs and tea and loving it.

Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 9257087)

Oh hi Tuesday Lady?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9257049)

Hey I never said that I was just commenting on your post and tbe idea that we're responsible for how much or little people report stuff

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9257086)

We're lying in bed together with hobnobs and tea and loving it.

Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 9257090)

You wearing one of his lumberjack shirts and nothing else?

Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 9257069)

Let's be real LT is reading this offline and is loving the attention!