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Crimson Dynamo 26-05-2018 07:52 AM

I just hope we dont see pictures of silly women in the streets whooping and hollering like the won a cup final but i am not holding my breath

Brillopad 26-05-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10007126)
If it takes two people to create a baby, it should take two people to want to have the baby. Not one, and that goes both ways with a hypothetical "woman wants a baby and then wants child support from the man who didn't want it" sort of situation.

Disagree with this - unless both ‘parents’ took precautions then both are responsible for any consequences. A man is not off the hook if he did nothing to protect himself - and stating ‘she was on the pill or taking care of it’ is not good enough.

Northern Monkey 26-05-2018 08:01 AM

Happy abortion day Ireland :clap1:


I do think it’s the right decision even though if i was Irish i’d like to see things like a limit on amount and number of weeks etc so it can’t be abused like over here.

Beso 26-05-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10007384)
I just hope we dont see pictures of silly women in the streets whooping and hollering like the won a cup final but i am not holding my breath

Already saw them this morning...i must say i was surprised at the amount of homosexuals standing with them.

Niamh. 26-05-2018 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10007276)
If ypou don't want to get pregnant use protection

Thanks for that insight Adam [emoji106]

y.winter 26-05-2018 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 10006852)
Good luck for the YES campaign
https://i.imgur.com/Xb4bEfM.jpg

Laura did it

bots 26-05-2018 08:42 AM

The state shouldn't be about restricting personal choice and freedom over what people can and cannot do with their own bodies. Enough scientific research has been done to define perfectly appropriate limits. These should clearly be the measures that any sensible democracy would set in place. If breakthroughs are made making the survival rates better, then limits should be adjusted accordingly. Power to the people.

Brillopad 26-05-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10007276)
If ypou don't want to get pregnant use protection

And that clearly works both ways - if a man does not want to be a dad yet does nothing to protect himself and put a cover on it he is just as responsible.

Cherie 26-05-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10007392)
Already saw them this morning...i must say i was surprised at the amount of homosexuals standing with them.

It would be interesting to see a case where a gay couples surrogate aborted their baby at 12 weeks because she decided she couldn’t go through with it

Oliver_W 26-05-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10007431)
The state shouldn't be about restricting personal choice and freedom over what people can and cannot do with their own bodies.

Does a pregnant woman have four arms, four legs, and two heads? No, because the body growing inside them is not their own.

Beso 26-05-2018 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10007436)
It would be interesting to see a case where a gay couples surrogate aborted their baby at 12 weeks because she decided she couldn’t go through with it

Just another dead baby.

Brillopad 26-05-2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10007449)
Does a pregnant woman have four arms, four legs, and two heads? No, because the body growing inside them is not their own.

Until that child is born the child is a part of them and it is not for men to try to find reasons why they can tell women what they can/cannot do with their own bodies.

It is not an easy decision for most - and until any man finds himself in that exact position he hasn’t a clue! Put a cover on it and no man will be in the situation where a woman will be terminating his baby.

thesheriff443 26-05-2018 10:01 AM

Abortion is legal and I think that is the right decision setting aside what someone considers right and wrong.

For some an abortion is an horrific experience mentally and psychically and yet for some it's getting rid of a mistake or failing to us protection, for some they have had several abortions due to having casual sex.

On the other side of the coin we have woman who are drug and drink dependent having kids that are taken away at birth and put in the care system and will never see their mother I know of one example of this in which the person in question has had three kids, taken away as soon as she gives birth.

Some men push a woman into an abortion some men beg a woman not to have one.

Smithy 26-05-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10007392)
Already saw them this morning...i must say i was surprised at the amount of homosexuals standing with them.

Gay men seem to understand a woman’s body is her own to make descisions with a lot more than straight men :hee:

Beso 26-05-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10007505)
Gay men seem to understand a woman’s body is her own to make descisions with a lot more than straight men :hee:

There were a lot more straight men on the clips than gay men.:shrug:

Nicky91 26-05-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10007505)
Gay men seem to understand a woman’s body is her own to make descisions with a lot more than straight men :hee:

well i also do understand that

Cherie 26-05-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10007505)
Gay men seem to understand a woman’s body is her own to make descisions with a lot more than straight men :hee:

They don't understand the issues fully pertaining to fathers because the only way they will become Dads of babys from their own genepool is via a water tight contract with a surrogate :hee:

Smithy 26-05-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10007518)
They don't understand the issues fully pertaining to fathers because the only way they will become Dads of babys from their own genepool is via a water tight contract with a surrogate :hee:

Oh yeah a gay man has never had a child with a woman before eh

Cherie 26-05-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10007528)
Oh yeah a gay man has never had a child with a woman before eh

Not if he is out and proud no, and you are boiling it down to an very niche group whereas you had no trouble at all painting all straight men as not being understanding, when the cap fits eh?

Greg! 26-05-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10007531)
Not if he is out and proud no

Actually a lot of gays have a child with a female friend and raise it together or get a surrogate but go off!

Smithy 26-05-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10007531)
Not if he is out and proud no, and you are boiling it down to an very niche group whereas you had no trouble at all painting all straight men as not being understanding, when the cap fits eh?

:skull::skull:

The ignorance

Cherie 26-05-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 10007533)
Actually a lot of gays have a child with a female friend and raise it together or get a surrogate but go off!

can you read my post where I mentioned surrogates, in your haste to get involved you seem to have missed that, not unusual it has to be said, also that is a completely different issue as the female has come to an agreement to have a child, it is not an accidental pregnancy so bears no relevance whatsoever

Cherie 26-05-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10007537)
:skull::skull:

The ignorance

and of course your post about straight men not understanding female issues is a glowing testament to education :joker:

Greg! 26-05-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10007538)
can you read my post where I mentioned surrogates, in your haste to get involved you seem to have missed that, not unusual it has to be said, also that is a completely different issue as the female has come to an agreement to have a child, it is not an accident so bears no relevance whatsoever

But you said no openly gay man has "ever" had a baby with a woman. So do you disagree with yourself or?

Cherie 26-05-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 10007542)
But you said no openly gay man has "ever" had a baby with a woman. So do you disagree with yourself or?

No a gay man wont get a woman pregnant by accident unless he is in the closet but we are not talking about that are we?


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