on paper france is world champion :hehe:


but Croatia are the real champions, this is still like the best result ever for them :cheer2: :dance:

Its been great, probably because there was so little hype about going to Russia and it was generally not seen as a great choice of host, proved very wrong, and England doing well and the feel good factor that generated, I doubt Brazil or Argentina fans will be pointing at this as a great WC :laugh:

4th Place and golden boot were coming home :clap1: :clap1:


4th of the world isn't bad i think, and you left brazil, Argentina, Germany, Spain, Portugal behind you

England are not a top 4 in the world side. They are probably a top 16 side, but that's about it.

and yet they were in the top 4 here this world cup

which doesn't mean anything given the unevenness in terms of quality between the 2 sides of the draw.

yep you can think like that being negative about your boys but you can also think positive and being proud of them getting to the semi finals and being 4th of the world

4th best in the world, Germany could never

Sorry but that is not how it works now is it BOTs :nono: If it were Iceland up there in 4th you wouldn't be saying that.....:hee:

No i wouldn't. Even Gareth stated that England were not a top 6 side, so how can anyone in all seriousness think they are top 4 :laugh:

No different to Portugal being European Champs, its a game of fine margins as they keep telling us :laugh:

its a game of 2 halves, unless you are Croatian, in which case its usually 4 halves :laugh:

The VAR team was always quite conveniently poor for England though I'd say.

Otherwise a pretty strong World Cup that actually holds it's own with club Football for a change.