The thing that is (still, constantly) being ignored is that most of the people persecuted and murdered by the group she chose to support are in the country she's currently in and the surrounding region. ISIS is more of a risk to innocent people in the Middle East than it is to people in the UK. I know people might not like that uncomfortable fact, or might have the bizarre notion that "Islamic countries aren't at risk from an ISIS sympathiser" (which can only come from reading literally zero international news?) AND on top of that, the country she's in has practically no infrastructure left so they can't realistically monitor this "dangerous person" from the UK at all. Therefore, the right, correct, responsible thing to do is have her back here - where she was born, where she was radicalised - under the supervision of the UK authorities.

I don't understand the logic that leaving an ISIS supporter free and unmonitored in the area most at risk from ISIS is "showing sympathy for the victims and their families". It's showing none at all. It's saying "We don't give a stuff so long as it's only foreign victims and their foreign families."

In fact not only is that irresponsible... it's the sort of selfish isolationist attitude that ISIS recruiters leverage to radicalise more people. Failing to take responsibility for this is actively helping terrorist organisations to grow and expand. It seriously concerns me that so many people advocate this level of shirking under the guise of it being somehow "moral", and not simple selfish cowardice and avoidance of responsibility.

Someone on twitter said to get Prince Phillip to pick her up from the airport :skull:

My point is that she only wants to return to the UK for her own humanitarian concerns for herself and her child. She still supports ISIS who have by their actions put her in her present predicament. If ISIS were not on the run, she would still be happy to be there furthering their cause. She demonstrates zero compassion for those around her that are in that position as a direct result of the actions that she supported, so why should she now get an easy life (safe) now at the expense of those she persecuted.

I have always said i have no issue with her being brought back and tried here, but it should be when we are ready to do it, not when it best suits her

:joker::joker::joker:

Agreed again,and if she is so concerned for the 'baby' why not just ask for him to be taken to safety ? she can go be with her husband.

Yes hand over the baby if you really are that concerned, she can get in the queue to return

Her reasons for wanting to return (and in fact, whether or not she wants to return at all) are entirely irrelevant; I think she should be taken out of Syria and on the first flight back to the UK whether she wants to be or not.

Given the security risk she poses, I would rather have her here locked up than face the possibility of her sneaking back in under the guise of a refugee and flying under.the radar....if we know she is locked down there is no chance of her deciding to become a martyr to the cause. I do believe she should be locked up though and not just put on a watch list

Have people forgotten what Islamic State have been responsible for? I'm afraid I can't forget the film of gay people being hurled off buildings to their death, children being slaughtered, press and humanitarian workers beheaded, torture, gang rape, sex trafficking, horrific, medieval torture... and now because this girl has had a baby we're supposed to be welcoming her back because she's British? She didn't think herself British when she went out there. Bring the baby back and give it to her parents if you must but this woman must be tried in Syria with the rest of her murderous IS terrorists.

We don't have to have her back here, we don't have to have any of the murdering terrorist back here and if we do, it'll be because people are more concerned for this woman than they are for the safety of the British public.

If I was running IS, I'd be working hard to get as many of my people into Europe as I could. This woman can't help us, she has no intelligence to give us. She has no place here anymore.

Yes as Isis have not been in the news much.

She needs to go to Prison
for standing in that group,
just because she was 15
when she went, does not let her off.

A Joker

I don't think anyone has forgotten but, again, the vast majority of this occurs in the Middle East which is exactly why she shouldn't be allowed to stay there -where she almost certainly will NOT be put on trial - to join up with another terrorist group. Again I have major concerns about the idea that it's fine for her to continue to pose a risk in another country, so long as she isn't a risk here. She is a British citizen and we should not be happily imposing her on another nation just because "it's safer for us".

The idea that this is about mollycoddling a terrorist or "her rights" or wanting her accepted back is a total strawman... no one is suggesting that that's why she should be back here. She should be here because it's our responsibility to ensure she doesn't harm anyone else, anywhere not because it's our responsibility to make sure she personally is OK.

Our first responsibility is to the British Public. Legally we don't have to bring her back. And what a poster girl she'll be for Muslim Terrorism back here in the UK! I care as much about her being (or not being) tried abroad as I do about any other terrorist.

Supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation and membership of a proscribed organisation both carry as 10 year sentence. She'd be out in 5. Encouraging terrorism would being a 7 year sentence, out in 3. That's what she'll get if she's allowed home, out and free well before she's turned 30. And once she is out we'll have to keep her under surveillance forever at enormous cost. And she's not even tried to atone for her actions, she's proud of what she did.

Like I said earlier, there is a line, and she's crossed it. Maybe an Islamic country will take pity on her. But I doubt it.

looking at it logically, she would be out just in time to indoctrinate her kid

Her Baby Boy


That would be sad if he became a Terrorist

Exactly. I have no objection to her child being brought to the UK and given to her family.

what would she be convicted of though, she says she was just a housewife, only 10 per cent of returnees end up behind bars and not for very long I would imagine

Like I said above, if she's thrown in jail, she'll still be out and free long before she's 30.

But not for the British public? Fair enough, I find it an odd stance, especially when paired with the insistence that dangerous individuals who are NOT from the UK, but are living in the UK, should be returned to their home countries. Is it not hypocrisy to say that all dangerous individuals should rightly be returned to their country of origin... but dangerous individuals from the UK should NOT be returned to the UK? Are we for some reason an exception to that logic? Or does it simply not matter if it's a moral and logical contradiction... so long as we personally are as safe as possible?

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe would be my priority

Why does sympathy have to be mutually exclusive to either the children raised in that environment or IS' victims?

Those children that are raised in that environment, that are turned into child soldiers or baby factories are just as much a victim of IS as anyone else. I don't have sympathy for the mother since she chose that life but the children? Yes I do.

She had wanted the baby to fight for Isis she has called it jarra in honour of a jahidist who slaughtered Jews.

Her and those like her need a bullet in the head.

The difference is the people who came here did not to so to cause their home country harm?

Yank the child from her then feed her back to ISIS to sort

Again the misconception that ISIS factions in Syria were not there to harm Syria. Its exactly the same situation... Except that the damage done by ISIS in Syria actually far outweighs any damage done by ISIS cells in the UK.

Unless you agree with Oliver that "ISIS isn't a threat to Islamic countries".