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Wait, the reason you're giving for mischaracterizing the discussion is me? You're a parody of yourself now.

But, at the end of the day that didn't happen and he was already apprehended when the officer knelt on his neck. The whole point is that the officer didn't stick to protocol and the detainee in question ultimately doesn't change that fact.

People can focus on the detainee all they want but they're missing the point if they do that. You can't kneel on people's necks or heads, officers are supposed to be trained not to do so and when you try to sweep stuff like this under the table, how long before it's normalised? Before it's done to someone who can't be painted as a mass murderer in waiting? How long before such actions kill a person?

You've got to nip that kind of behaviour in the bud or it will grow and this story will be a reminder for other officers to stick to their training.

Somebody used that line on Livia a while ago too, get some creativity. :(

People should take the police to task when they do wrong, when the police makes mistakes, it puts peoples' lives in danger.

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Why are you so obsessed with me and not the discussion? Seems a bit creepy. :smug:

You speak about me in threads all the time, don't try the "creepy" line on me when I never even acknowledged you before :skull:

...’in any way’ though is neither appropriate or acceptable...’in any way’ doesn’t instill any confidence from our public in our police force ...jobs in general can’t be done in any way that’s preferable to us...they have to follow protocol and procedure given and they have to follow training...if I restrained someone/a child...and didn’t follow the correct training methods to do so..?...then my actions would be subject to scrutiny and I’d be rightly answerable and be suspended as well, while the incident was looked into...it’s exactly the same for a police officer and that’s something we should all be on board with because their jobs come with such power and control and we have to be confident that, that power and control is not open to abuse...above all other people, the people who we look to, to uphold the law are the law themselves...and it can’t leave open for instance any way’ as an officer pleases, it must follow the training given because it’s too important not to...

Well both of those things aren't true, but lying is what you do best I guess.

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Again, another line that you like to say to Livia. You must have copy pasted this **** by now.

...why is Livia/another member relevant to the thread topic in any way...sorry I’m new here, I mistakingly thought this was an actual discussion and not just a targeting/baiting of specific members...carry on, I’ll try not to make that mistake again when considering joining a thread...

What on earth does Livia have to do with this conversation? I asked you a question about a specific post you wrote in this thread, and your replies have been unhinged. I'm here for it though.

She isn't, apart from capri thinking that will hold sway, or add weight to the nonsense being spewed. It's sad when you think about it.

Eh I guess you haven't noticed that she gets ganged up on in every thread lately & I've even seen some of the EXACT same responses Slim wrote to me, as he did to her. :skull:

He spoke about me first so he can sure as hell carry it on, if he wants to.

I'm pointing out your biased and unfair replies to people that you don't agree with.

Stop talking about "lying" or myself... and keep to the topic, which you seem to find very difficult to do. And you have done it in multiple threads over time, it's not exactly authentic or fun for anyone.

You're pointing out nothing but making yourself look a bit weird, obsessed, and crazy. I asked you a valid question about a post you wrote, and the results are there for everyone to see. You tried to attack me the other day for no reason, so this pretense that I'm attacking you is again, easily disproved.

Anyway, this thread is about a serious topic, not your hurt feelings, and it's obvious you either don't wish to answer the question I posed, or you are unable. Either way, it needs to get back to the topic now.

...okay, I wasn’t going to say anymore but I’m going to...I’ve known Slim for a long time and we’re quite close, as he is with other female members ..I’ve also known him on another site off this forum...and I have never for one moment known him to be in any way inappropriate in anything he says, he has extremely fine moral standards and is very respectful always...I did see the thread that was made and I know exactly to what that text referred because Liv and I were both made aware of certain things at the time...so she does know as well, that it would have been a joke based on somethings another member had said/was saying...I find it despicable that certain accusations have been allowed against two members and it sickens me that it’s by someone that I felt I knew ...but as it turns out, apparently I didn’t know that person at all who is filled with relentless hateful spite...

I really appreciate the sentiment Ammi, but let them reveal who they are. The more often they do it, the bigger chance that James/Josy will eventually have to deal with the constant stream of insults and innuendo that comes not just mine or dezzys way, but J/J's way too.

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My god... I'm not even really interested in what happened between y'all but all I DO know is that regardless of what happened in previous PM's, other forums, or threads... is that Livia has been targeted a LOT and it's tragic to see by the exact same members for a whole bunch of the time and has been manipulated by certain people here.

You might not be part of any "group" like people suggest, but you sure as hell fit in pretty damn well, from what I've seen too. Anyone who disagrees here is "cancelled" if we weren't already, but do let us carry on... :spin2:

Bad cops getting punished, you love to see it, I’m glad the professionals could see that what he did was wrong and proceeded accordingly

...’like people suggest..’....as being portrayed by the targeting ‘gang’...yeah I’ve seen exactly the people who are being or have been ‘cancelled’ and it’s sickening how toxic this behaviour has become....I have nothing more to say, I believe you’ve just explained, Capri, ‘what people suggest’ about me and about others..you seem like a nice young lady, I’m sorry you’ve been encircled in this spitefulness and hate...

...’like people suggest’ is a verification of targeting and bullying toward me, not that verification was required...

Yup, I agree.

As a matter of interest do you two think the professionals involved in this decision should have been suspended given their mistake ended in junior officers being injured under their duty of care?

I’d kick your soft arse all round Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

:joker: I would pay to watch

Spend more time in the gym then you might be able to lift more than a pen.