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arista 09-02-2023 12:48 PM

Police Search now at the Sea

Coast Area


https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bu...e-bay-12806835

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11259771)
Police Search now at the Sea

Coast Area


https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bu...e-bay-12806835

FROM THE ARTICLE: "Police had been working on the theory that she fell into
the River Wyre, but her family and friends claimed there was "no evidence
whatsoever" of this."

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 02:51 PM


GoldHeart 09-02-2023 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11259829)

A van now !??

I guess the abandoned house was a dead end then , anyone else suspicious of the CCTV being broken :suspect: .

bots 09-02-2023 02:57 PM

we are almost getting in to vigilante territory now. There will have been lots of traffic movements

Cherie 09-02-2023 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11259829)

A worried resident comes forward 2 weeks later?

GoldHeart 09-02-2023 02:59 PM

Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 03:24 PM

Nicola Bulley diving expert reveals video ‘proof’ she didn’t fall into
the river where cops claim she vanished


https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...7-10.jpg?w=620

Dive expert Peter Faulding says a clip shows the river is slow-moving, which
means she would have sunk "very quickly".

He claims this means Nicola, 45, would have remained near where she
disappeared on January 27 if she'd fallen in.

The forensic expert also says the missing mum could have simply "stood up" in
the water as rocks at the time were under just 2ft of water.

Speaking about the video, Peter said: "The log stayed at that point for 20
minutes, and it actually spiralled and went up six feet and came back to the
same place.

"The river on the day was slightly higher - it was about a foot higher - but I'd
be very surprised in my experience [if she was there] as a body usually goes
to the bottom very quickly.

"If Nicola slipped down the bank, she would have landed in about 2ft of water
but onto rocks, and she could have stood up."

He was yesterday pictured visiting the scene where Nicola was last seen with
her partner Paul Ansell.

Peter claims Paul now believes "Nicola has not gone in that river" after
speaking with the diving experts.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/213333...no-river-fall/

Cherie 09-02-2023 05:10 PM

I hope they haven't spent two weeks troupsing up and down the river if she has been abducted, this could turn into another Suzy Lamplugh

MTVN 09-02-2023 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11259837)
Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .

She did come forward shortly after the police said they wanted to speak to her I believe

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 05:27 PM

Nicola Bulley can’t have ‘vanished’ – this is what the police should do now

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incomin...her-at-4pm.jpg

It is now 14 days since mum of two, Nicola Bulley was last seen – leaving her family, friends and the police baffled by her disappearance. Let’s be clear: people don’t just vanish, there is always an explanation.

So, what could have happened to her?

To my mind, there are three options. The first is what police have believed from day one: that Nicola fell into the River Wyre. However, even though they have made this their main focus, this is looking more and more unlikely. They have flooded the search of the river with massive resources, including private divers, which will have detracted from other areas being searched. Yet they still have no evidence to support their hypothesis that she has fallen into the river.

The other two options are therefore, in my opinion, becoming increasingly more likely: that she left of her own free will, or a third-party was involved.

The police have identified a window of opportunity of about 10 minutes, when they have no sighting or information about Nicola’s whereabouts. This is ample time – either for her to get herself some distance from the river bank and the phone, or for someone else to have been involved. I know the police have stated clearly that they have no evidence of third-party involvement or criminal behaviour, but neither do they have any evidence that she fell into the river. So, all three options must remain on the table until they are eliminated.

To date, the assumption has been that if Nicola left by what whatever means, it would have been by a path – but how can we be so certain about that? Had she left via a field or non-official path, she would not have been seen on CCTV.

A lot has been made of her mobile phone on the bench as being the location she entered the water, but evidence from the police who have thoroughly searched the area downstream to the weir tells us that this is almost certainly not the case. With the flow of the River Wyre at the time only being very slightly higher and faster, it is still not enough to drag a fully clothed, fit and healthy person far downstream. If she did lose consciousness straight away, because of the water temperature she would have sunk to the bottom.

The police have come under a lot of criticism – some founded, some very unfair. Nobody can doubt their desire to find Nicola, but what has been lacking is a clear, appropriate and effective media strategy. For example, on day one conflicting information was released about where the dog was found. They also said they were certain Nicola did not leave the area, only to follow it up a few days later saying it’s possible – because a path was not covered by CCTV.

But my biggest concern is the police concluding – within days of Nicola’s disappearance – that they had formed a working hypothesis that Nicola fell into the water and drowned. My major problem with having a hypothesis so early is it has the danger of looking for evidence to fit that theory, rather than everyone remaining open-minded.

With my experience as a former detective, I think this is what the police investigation should focus on now:

1) Conclude the water search as soon as possible – once all areas are eliminated;

2) Focus on a wider search of the fields and wooded area on land;

3) Fitbit data on average updates every 15 minutes via Bluetooth to Nicola’s phone – when did that last happen? This will help give an indication of when the watch went out of range, and if the watch was still on her wrist this could significantly helping with the time line and radius of search;

4) Reconstruction and road checks – people are creatures of habit. Most of us take the same route at the same time, on the same day, every week. This may well identify new witnesses, who have not yet come forward.

Having dealt with many families who are in the same place as Nicola’s family now tragically find themselves in, I know they hold on to every possible piece of hope. They will be watching the news and reading articles. It will be a relief for them I am sure that the brilliant forensics expert Peter Faulding did not find her, but I can tell you from experience it’s the not knowing that eats away, far more. That is why they need answers, not hypotheses.

Mark Williams-Thomas is an investigative reporter. He is also the presenter of ITV and Netflix series The Investigator

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b2279185.html

Gusto Brunt 09-02-2023 06:30 PM

It's very rare I ever get any abuse on social media. In fact it might have been about three times in ten years.

But since I've been contributing to the case of missing Nicola, I've had a lot of abuse on YouTube just for saying I think she was abducted. Not killed but taken by someone.

I've had some really nasty comments from people who will not accept any other version of events other than she has drowned and is in the river.

We're all entitled to an opinion but I think I will stop posting comments on YouTube regarding the matter. :)

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gusto brunt (Post 11259919)
it's very rare i ever get any abuse on social media. In fact it might have been about three times in ten years.

But since i've been contributing to the case of missing nicola, i've had a lot of abuse on youtube just for saying i think she was abducted. Not killed but taken by someone.

I've had some really nasty comments from people who will not accept any other version of events other than she has drowned and is in the river.

We're all entitled to an opinion but i think i will stop posting comments on youtube regarding the matter. :)

dont be intimidated gusto

Cherie 09-02-2023 07:37 PM

Why have they not released the fitbit data, if she died on the day then surely they can say this?

arista 10-02-2023 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11259976)
Why have they not released the fitbit data, if she died on the day then surely they can say this?


For some reason, Police Refuse

arista 10-02-2023 03:58 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...un-nc.png.webp

arista 10-02-2023 05:52 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02...5992841428.jpg

[Lancashire Police is working under
the hypothesis that she slipped into the water
But it has admitted possibility she left the area
by one path not covered by CCTV
]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...la-Bulley.html

arista 10-02-2023 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11259837)
Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .


I think, Police have spoken
to that lady.

arista 10-02-2023 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11259745)
There's more stuff that I wouldn't like, it's pretty toxic.


But the Point is with Twitter
is you direct who you follow


Which means your Stream
will be what you have directed


Easy and Fast to UnFollow, as well


You would be Great on Twitter

arista 10-02-2023 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11259832)
A van now !??

I guess the abandoned house was a dead end then , anyone else suspicious of the CCTV being broken :suspect: .


There are loads of Empty Houses.


And that Red Tatty Van
was mentioned on the Live Report
on GMBHD itv
this morning.

bots 10-02-2023 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11260084)
But the Point is with Twitter
is you direct who you follow


Which means your Stream
will be what you have directed


Easy and Fast to UnFollow, as well


You would be Great on Twitter

but it's **** and I don't want to follow anyone

Crimson Dynamo 10-02-2023 11:51 AM


Alf 10-02-2023 12:07 PM

Professor Plum
In the study
With the candlestick

arista 10-02-2023 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11260088)
but it's **** and I don't want to follow anyone


You are not using it right

bots 10-02-2023 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11260213)
You are not using it right

i'm not using it at all, which is just perfect

arista 10-02-2023 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11260215)
i'm not using it at all, which is just perfect


OK

arista 10-02-2023 01:44 PM

Yes LT
today at least we viewed the ally to that busy road
showing someone could take her.

All AM TV news & Radio were there.

Viewing that busy road at the time, she vanished
I wonder if an Evil Man with a weapon
took her to a Van or Car?

Crimson Dynamo 10-02-2023 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11260225)
Yes LT
today at least we viewed the ally to that busy road
showing someone could take her.

All AM TV news & Radio were there.

Viewing that busy road at the time, she vanished
I wonder if an Evil Man with a weapon
took her to a Van or Car?

He could have hit her with a claw hammer on the back of the head and then put her over his shoulder and had her away up that path to load in his van. Quick as a flash

Crimson Dynamo 10-02-2023 02:26 PM


Crimson Dynamo 10-02-2023 03:50 PM


'Nikki would never give up on us ever. Something happened that day': Nicola
Bulley's partner says his family are going through 'unprecedented hell' and he
feels 'like he is in the Truman show' - but insists they will find missing mother



Paul Ansell said he is '100 per cent' Ms Bulley did not fall into the River Wyre
The mother-of-two went missing while walking her dog on January 27


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02...6045464770.jpg
Nicola Bulley's partner today declared 'something happened that day' as the
search for the missing mother hits the two-week mark. He is pictured, right,
with 5 News's Dan Walker, left. The full interview will appear on ‘Vanished:
What’s happened to Nicola Bulley’ at 9pm on Channel 5

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...anish-air.html

Crimson Dynamo 10-02-2023 09:14 PM

decent prog by c5 tonight

:clap2:

Beso 10-02-2023 09:19 PM

Hopefully shes alive and well in Panama. I hate the thought of peope suffering whilst dying.

Not really followed this case much, but she cant be in the river if her phone was on the bench. It would be in her pocket.

It cant be suicide by drowning cause the waters about 3ft deep, if my info is correct!

Do they have a police station or a refugee centre nearby?

Beso 10-02-2023 10:02 PM


arista 10-02-2023 10:08 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...829fc58ad.jpeg

arista 10-02-2023 10:12 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...0ce6102cb.jpeg

arista 10-02-2023 10:13 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...763413096.jpeg

Crimson Dynamo 11-02-2023 05:42 PM


bots 11-02-2023 05:52 PM

you are really going down the conspiracy tunnel there LT

Oliver_W 11-02-2023 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11260602)
you are really going down the conspiracy tunnel there LT

He sure is.

btw, let me tell you about the boats she might have gotten on :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 11-02-2023 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11260602)
you are really going down the conspiracy tunnel there LT

i did not tweet that :laugh:


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