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He mentions several things in his thoughts about the derby. Far from highlighting Young above everything else.

Hmm... I still think, personally, his idea was:

Valencia Kagawa Hazard (Later Moura)

Rooney

Of course this all changed due to Hazard and Moura going elsewhere and RVP becoming available.

In regards to point C. I think we played Giggs there as Cleverley is knackered. No other choice, which obviously needs sorting.
Giggs was immense in 2010/11 in central midfield, and I think that's the reason Fergie plays him there hoping he can put in a shift as good as that campaign. That said, his best form this season has been on the wing. In which he's been our best winger this campaign (not a hard thing to be, however).

Keane was totally out of order for going on MUTV slagging the team off though for me. Huge respect to Keane despite that as he was 'effin brilliant as a player. The problem between the pair is they're too a like.

A lot wanted Fergie to go around the Mourinho domination era. Those teams were just not good enough. Then he went and rebuilt and we dominated for a few years. I still think he can rebuild United again. He just has to sign some quality midfielders this summer. Would love Gundogan.

Good post but i am afraid to tell you while Giggs is still here no quality CM will be brought in. The fact we brought Scholes out of fuken retirement instead of give Pogba his deserved chance still brings a tear to my eye if anyone thinks Fergie would have done that 6-7 years ago don't know ****

Also we really need to get of Phelan. There is a reason Fergies limitations tactical have been exposed since this yes man look over from Carlos

Legend killer

10-04-2013 05:20 PM

Outside of buying a CM my main bit of buisness would be

Signing Nani too a new contract one of a few genuine world class players we have when Given a consistent run rather then benched every other fuken game and shoved to the left. Couple of seasons ago when he was actually allowed a consistent run he was our player of the year and put up numbers Ashley and Tony would struggle to get combined. For **** sake he has the same numbers as them both combined this year SMH

Then get rid of Tony and especially Young. He has actually outplayed Tony this year (not saying a lot) but that 100 000 a week contract is clogging up our wage bill

Bring in jay rodriguez with young gone we will have more then enough wage capacity

Ryan57

10-04-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 5929631)

I think Nani may well leave. Fergie made out he wanted to keep him and he'll stay but, it just seems to me like he doesn't trust him.

I want Valencia to stay, personally. He has played like Rory Delap this season but... he has had three good seasons prior to that. Hopefully he'll be back to his best next season, if he stays that is.

I think Young will be given another season. And next season I predict he'll score 55 goals and have 23 assists. Proving all us doubters wrong. http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001...r_9_small.jpeg

Edit: In regards to your previous post. I really really hope a central midfielder is signed this summer. Surely this summer will be when we fix the centre of midfield once and for all. Joao Moutinho would be a great aquisition, imo. Was tempted by the Premier League last summer.

King Gizzard

10-04-2013 05:37 PM

Spurs will probably have him

Ryan57

10-04-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 5929677)

Spurs will probably have him

Indeed. So underrated, imo.

Legend killer

11-04-2013 02:16 PM

If we don't even enquire about Felliani in the summer I may actually cry. Would get him relatively cheaply and is exactly what we need Physical , not scared to tackle and can score goals to boot. Not even making an attempt to get Dembele last year still has me bemused

Ryan57

11-04-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 5930697)

I think Everton will demand about £25 mil to £30 mil with the season he's had. Wanyama would be a cheaper alternative.

Yeah, I really wanted Dembele. Such a classy player. I don't think we bought him due to having Cleverley.

Legend killer

11-04-2013 04:03 PM

Wanyama is great as a defensive mid but his all round game is not actually that great. I would much rather pay the 10-12 mill extra for Fellani who is the superior all round player and is proven in the premier league. And after all Fergie payed 20 mil for Mr Average so I don't think he will mind paying the big bucks when needed

Ryan57

11-04-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 5930847)

Would take Fellaini and Joao Moutinho this summer. :hugesmile:

Legend killer

11-04-2013 07:28 PM

Don't forget Jay Rodriguez too

Sadly we are more likely to see Gary Nev and Sir Bobby coming out of retirement I am afraid mate

Legend killer

11-04-2013 08:02 PM

Neville felt he was slowing up, might cost United and should retire. "Rubbish, Neville,'' replied SAF, 'typical you, emotional".

Just saw this above quote from Nev and is exactly the point I am making about Fergie and his sentimental bull****. That year EVERYONE could see Nev was finished yet if he had not called it a day Fergie like with Scholes and Giggs would have refused to accept this and continued playing him

I have MASSIVE respect Nev was a quality right back but he did what was right for the team and called it a day when he knew he could not perform to that level anymore it takes a big man to do such a thing

Ryan57

11-04-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 5931207)

For me, I'm not sure if he was finished. Now hear me out xD. I believe he played twice (just checked played three times, one from the bench, believe he started at West Brom) in 2010/11 at Stoke and at West Brom. 'effin terrible I know. However, the fact he only featured three times meant for someone his age as well, it wasn't possible for him to play well. Also those two matches were a few months apart. We see young players return after two or three games out and they can be rusty.

The previous season he did a good job for us at right back.

Admittedly, Fergie does have some of that sentimentality. Though last season when Scholes came out of retirement he was fantastic and we'd of probably not of even been in the title race but for Scholes returning. Played a huge part. That said, game at the Etihad was just too much for him. Toure abused our central midfield.

Midfield has to be sorted this summer once and for all. I'd be shocked if it isn't as I don't see any other area (barrring the wing and an outside chance of a centre back imo) that needs strengthening. We very nearly had a playmaker in the summer of 2011. Nasri was all but done until his agent was a tw@t. I believe there were other targets in mind and of course Sneijder. Although, not sure how him playing in the centre would of worked out.

Legend killer

11-04-2013 09:14 PM

Nah Ryan Nev was more then finished his performance against Stoke was literally the single worst performance I have EVER seen bare in mind I have been watching Giggs in CM and Tony this year. Also remember if he had stayed on I am more then positive Raf's progress would have been completely stunted just like quite a few of our younger players in recent years

Ryan57

12-04-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 5931409)

Yeah, I was going to mention Rafael's brilliant rise to one of the best right backs in the country may not of happened. At least so soon.

Ryan57

12-04-2013 09:13 AM

Guillem Balague says United have put a down payment on Falcao, just like they did with De Gea. :suspect:

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:27 PM

Rooney wins goal poll

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Wayne Rooney has picked up our latest Goal of the Month award for his effort against Norwich City at the start of March.

http://www.manutd.com/~/media/7310B0...408T1322078454

In injury-time against the Canaries at Old Trafford, Rooney cut inside and unleashed a dipping drive from outside the box past goalkeeper Mark Bunn to seal a 4-0 win for United, after Shinji Kagawa’s earlier maiden hat-trick for the club.

The goal garnered 39% of fans’ votes on our seven official websites – English and its Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Spanish and French language versions.

Javier Hernandez’s looping header in the 2-2 FA Cup draw against Chelsea came second on 27%, with Kagawa’s third goal against Norwich, a neat dink following a fine team move, rounding off the top three (16%).

Kagawa’s second that afternoon, an impudent first-time finish from Rooney’s pass, was also nominated, along with a rocket by Charni Ekangamene and a smart shot by Sam Byrne for the Under-21s and Under-18s respectively.

Well done to Wayne Rooney:).

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:28 PM

Live: Stoke City v United

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Manchester United face Stoke City at the Britannia Stadium this weekend (Sunday 14 April, kick-off 14:05 BST).

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...ommentary.aspx

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:29 PM

Preview: Stoke v United

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...er-United.aspx

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:30 PM

Sir Alex: We're in good shape

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Sir Alex Ferguson believes Manchester United “are in good shape” ahead of Sunday’s trip to Stoke City after injured trio Jonny Evans, Nemanja Vidic and Chris Smalling all made positive strides this week.

http://www.manutd.com/~/media/29312A...412T1007282511

Speaking during his Friday morning press conference at Carrington, the boss confirmed Evans has trained all week and is in contention to start at the Britannia Stadium, while Vidic and Smalling have stepped up their individual workloads to potentially boost the Reds’ defensive options.

Paul Scholes should start training next Monday after struggling with a knee problem in recent months, however Ashley Young is set to be out for a fortnight with an ankle injury sustained during Monday’s derby defeat to Manchester City at Old Trafford.

“I’m hoping Vida will start training today," Sir Alex told reporters. “Jonny Evans has trained this week, which is better news than we had building up to Monday’s game. Ashley Young is out – he got a sore whack on his ankle and is maybe out for two weeks. Other than that, we're in good shape in terms of player availability.

“Chris Smalling started running this week and Paul Scholes will start training with the first-team on Monday. He’s done a fair bit in the last week or so and it will be a terrific boost to get his football intelligence back in the squad. He's been out for a few weeks now so he’ll need a good bit of training with us.

"You know you’re always going to get a hard game at Stoke. That will never change."

A mix of good and bad news!

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:32 PM

Boss: We need a win at Stoke

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Sir Alex Ferguson believes Manchester United need to win at the Britannia Stadium on Sunday to get the title charge back on track.

http://www.manutd.com/sitecore/shell...=253,0,611,536

The derby-day reverse to Manchester City trimmed the lead to 12 points with seven games remaining, enough to cause a minor bout of the jitters for some supporters in the wake of what happened at the end of last year's Barclays Premier League.

Any trip to Stoke City is usually tough and the Potters are desperate for points themselves after slipping down the table. However, the United manager is determined to secure victory ahead of the midweek journey south to West Ham next Wednesday.

"We have a job to do," stated Sir Alex. "The incentives are there for ourselves in the sense that we've only got seven games left.

"The challenge is there for Stoke as well. I don't think they will go down but, nonetheless, they’re in a precarious situation because, down the bottom of that league, you don’t pick up a lot of points. I think they'll get enough to get out.

"I don't think we should look at our position in terms of being 12 points clear. What matters is winning on Sunday and we need to do that. As we always do, we should just try to do our best. We have a job to do on Sunday and we need to do it."

The boss doesn't accept the view that Manchester City deserved to win Monday's top-of-the-table clash at Old Trafford.

"It's always disappointing to lose a derby," he conceded at his press conference. "There was nothing in it between the two teams.

"Possession-wise, they were better in the first half and we were better in the second half but lost two bad goals and you can't do that in derby games. It was a fantastic derby in the sense of the intensity.

"The start of the game was absolutely brilliant. Both teams went for it and it was end-to-end. Both had half-chances of sorts but it ended up that Joe Hart had the only save in the match to make. There was only one save in the whole match between the two goalkeepers. That gives you an idea about how close the game was."

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:34 PM

Vidic remains a doubt

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Nemanja Vidic remains a doubt for the weekend encounter at Stoke City with Sir Alex Ferguson conceding the captain could be a "bit short" in terms of fitness.

http://www.manutd.com/sitecore/shell...gn=0,2,535,801

The Serbian was injured during the 1-0 win at Sunderland and missed the defeats to Chelsea and Manchester City in the FA Cup and Barclays Premier League respectively. Although Jonny Evans is in contention to return at the Britannia Stadium, it looks like being a straight tussle with Rio Ferdinand and Monday's man-of-the-match Phil Jones for the two centre-back slots.

"We are hoping Nemanja can start training today but he's maybe a bit short for Sunday," the boss informed MUTV. "At least Jonny should be back and that's the good news we've got on that front.

"Chris Smalling has started training running-wise and is not far away. Phil was fantastic [in the derby] and that was only his fourth game at centre-back this season. As you know, he's been playing in other positions.

"He can play anywhere on the pitch and is going to be a fantastic player."

Sir Alex is determined that his side recovers from the setbacks against Chelsea and City by getting the title bid back on track in the Potteries.

"You don't want to lose derby games and I've said that time and time again," he asserted. "They scored late too and it didn't give us a lot of time to recover.

"Nonetheless, we've got to dust ourselves down. You know what this club is about and we know what our history is like. We know we can recover from disappointments and we'll do it again."

I so hope he is available!

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:35 PM

Lingard set for big week

http://www.manutd.com/sitecore/shell...gn=0,1,524,196

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...team-call.aspx

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:37 PM

Rio: No hangover from Madrid

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Rio Ferdinand insists the Reds are not suffering from any kind of hangover from last month's Real Madrid defeat, despite some disappointing results of late.

http://www.manutd.com/~/media/0DF162...n=0,13,534,410

After losing out in the FA Cup quarter-final replay away at Chelsea, having initially been in control of the tie at Old Trafford, the Reds went down 2-1 in the Manchester derby on Monday night.

Ferdinand maintains the players simply didn't reach the levels needed against Chelsea and City and says the results were not affected by the Reds' Champions League exit.

"There has been no hangover at all," he told MUTV's Countdown to Kick-Off show. "The Madrid game was a weird one - you're gutted obviously, but it didn't feel the same as when we lost to City because we didn't play well in that game.

"Against Madrid we did everything that was asked of us as players, but one decision took us off the rails and had a big impact on the way the game finished. So I wouldn't say that [about there being a hangover].

"We've had a couple of hard games against two teams [Chelsea and City] that are up there [near the top]. We've got no divine right to beat those teams, but we should have beaten them given we were playing at home. That's the disappointing thing. But no, there is no hangover."

Despite the loss to City, United remain well in control of their title destiny and Ferdinand says the players are simply focusing on finishing the job.

"Inevitably you have a bit of a down period for a day or so but you've got to dust yourself down and move on, and that's what we're doing," he added. "We go into the Stoke game [on Sunday] knowing we need to put a good performance and result together.

"What you aim for at the start of the season is to get some consistency within your team and that's what we've done. The results we've had have been churned out through hard work and applying ourselves in the right way and we've got to continue that.

"One defeat in 19 is some going. We can't allow all that hard work to be undone by one or two bad results of late."

bbfan1991

12-04-2013 08:38 PM

The loss to City really annoyed me and I was gutted, although onwards and upwards now to the Stoke game. Both teams at the opposite end of the table need those 3 points, but of course I hope that United return back to winning ways and if we beat them then three more wins are needed to guarantee that the Premier League title will be heading to Old Trafford!

bbfan1991

14-04-2013 11:27 AM

Chicha: Winning is everything

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Chicharito says the Reds are not worried by a recent lack of goals and insiss winning games is all that matters at the moment.

http://www.manutd.com/sitecore/shell...=144,0,518,562

After failing to score in the FA Cup replay at Chelsea, the Reds' two goals in the last two league games have come courtesy of the opposition.

Chicharito maintains it doesn't matter who or how many goals United score, as long as the team wins. And he says the players are determined to bounce back from the Manchester derby defeat with victory at Stoke on Sunday.

"Sometimes you can score a lot of goals and sometimes you are only scoring a few. It's part of football," he told MUTV's Countdown to Kick-off show.

"In some parts of the season we have scored a lot of goals. In December [and into January] we scored at least two goals in a few games in a row. That happens.

"We are working very hard to try and create as many chances as we can and when we have those chances we always try to score. The most important thing for us is to win the games - even if we win 1-0 we would still love that."

The Reds, who need one more goal to make it 100 for the season, travel to the Britannia Stadium knowing a win will extend their lead to 15 points over City, who are on FA Cup semi-final duty against Chelsea at Wembley on the same day.

United may be within 10 points of claiming a 20th league triumph, but Chicharito insists no-one at Old Trafford is thinking of anything but three points on Sunday.

"We have to forget about that [when United could win the title]. We are only thinking about Stoke," he adds. "We are taking it game by game. It's Stoke now and then we'll think about West Ham [on Wednesday] and then the next game.

"We are working very hard in training and doing what the gaffer wants us to so we can put in a performance on the pitch."

Chicharito is awesome:).

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