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Originally Posted by jet
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Nope, I don’t think everyone who disagrees with me is some sort of Corbyn ‘stan’ - (what a silly word) just you really,(and Kizzy!) :hehe: as you STILL won’t admit he even shares a fraction of the blame. It is weird that you can’t do that, even when polls and many in his own party say he shared a large part. I have never said he was 100% to blame, I said that the far left armchair revolutionary policies of the party itself played a part too. Why do you ignore that? People didn’t believe and didn’t want their outlandish policies so they voted Tory because they felt it would be in their better interests. YOU are putting words into my mouth and once again using avoidance tactics.
You can’t possibly know, nobody can, how things are going to turn out, no matter how much of a Mystic Meg you think you are. Analysts can only predict, they can’t KNOW. Analysts also predicted how disastrous for the country Labours loony policies would be but perhaps you paid no heed to them. Many obviously did. I don’t know why you think Labour in power would do fantastic things when they are also completely unproven. Unless you believe everything they say automatically.
Johnson has put the NHS at the top of his priorities but you totally ignore that because it seems you don’t want to believe it. You say he's been a terrible PM so far, so what does that say about people rejecting old Steptoe?
FYI I only post here sporadically (and never on social media) mostly because some people here think the Saint can do no wrong, has never done any wrong, and I like to refute that because it’s far from the truth. That's not an obsession, thats an enjoyment of filling people in on their missing information. Many have even thanked me with 'omg, I didn't know that' privately. :smug: Blame them for encouraging me....
Anyway, maybe it’s time to leave it now, because you have your views and I have mine and never the twain shall meet.
….and don’t come back with your usual ‘you are ducking out because you are losing’ as you did to another poster, yesterday I think, who remarked to you that there was no point talking to you ‘because it’s always your way or the highway’....
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So, I write a whole paragraph explaining my political views and you disregard it to carry on suggesting that I'm as obsessed with Corbyn as you. You are a fanatic of hate and there is no talking to you since you wake up and you think of Corbyn and you go to sleep thinking of Corbyn and you don't understand that no one's life revolves around Corbyn as much as yours' does. If you can't even be bothered to read what I'm saying then there's no point in talking to you, you might as well go argue with a wall and pretend it said what you want me to say because you aren't responding to anything I am actually saying.
I'm going to address the rest of your post though, mainly because it's laughable.
I have already addressed that I don't actually blame any parties for the result. Parties are nothing without votes and it's the people who vote. Tories are scum but they wouldn't have power if the people didn't give it to them with their votes. I'm not gonna blame parties for the mistakes of voters, that's dumb. I've explained this multiple times but it's still not sinking in because you don't read what I write, you read what you want to hear so you can keep pushing your fanaticism on other people. The fact that you keep projecting your issues onto me is just pitiful at this point. It's not worked so far so why keep trying?
You can't know how things will turn out because you likely only hear what you want to hear. I listen to the analysts whose careers and reputations depend on them being accurate, I listen to the experts. You let your hatred of some soon to be irrelevant MP dictate your life. I'm not making out I'm psychic, I'm just informed wile you obviously subscribe to the Micheal Gove thought process when it comes to Analysts. Most analysts worth their salt were in agreement about brexit and they were mostly in agreement about the vague promises of the Tory Manifesto.
Unlike Tory voters, I don't believe anything I'm told automatically, I'm just aware enough to notice that the Tory regimes since 2010 have been utter dog**** and we are overdue a change. When something is broken, I replace the broken parts, while you'll argue for waiting and hoping that the parts will fix themselves. Why would I believe the Tories when we've had three different Tory governments since 2010 and they've all embodied the same problems? You can hope and pray all you want for something to change, or you can try to make a change.
The Tories always say that the NHS is their top priority and every government cuts back on it's funding more every time. You may like to swallow the lies you're told but I certainly don't.
You are in a debate, it's quite pathetic to cry about me defending my views just because you can't overcome what I'm saying. I have never tried to shut someone down with the whole 'wah! you're not accepting my opinion and that means you're trying to silence me!!!' bull****. If I see a viewpoint I disagree with, I'll argue against it and I expect people to do the same when they disagree with me. I actually have conviction in my views, can't say the same about anyone that would enter a debate and then cry when the other person isn't giving up. Such entitlement. You don't like my viewpoints and you haven't been able to argue against me, that's why you've had to throw out insults first (I only respond to them by saying you are projecting) and that's why you're flouncing off now and trying to claim a moral victory because you can't get one on your own merit.
