Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5858052)

Saw your post Jess, not surprised it's been deleted. But thank you for understanding anyway, it's boosted my confidence a little that some people can remain respectful. I was beginning to feel disheartened that it's just me and Reece who are seeing this the same way. Appreciate it a lot :love:

It's funny because in the early stages of this thread I praised this forum for being diverse and largely open-minded, funny how things change eh. It's a shame.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5858060)

Being open minded is trying to understand things, which is what we are trying to do, I'm not going to blindly agree with something that makes no sense. You've just said yourself Jack that you can't even explain to me what the difference is but you're still saying that there definitely is a difference.........

Oh and btw, you're calling Jessica respectful for calling half the people posting in here idiots but Caitlin is disrespectful for saying Pansexuals are trying to be different.....ok then

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 5858068)

That is because half of the people posting in here are ignorant, but pansexual people are not trying to be anything except themselves.

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 5858062)

Yeah and I got an infraction too, it's ridiculous how ignorant people have been, some people really surprised me, nobody should be questioned and quizzed so trivially and disrespectfully about such a personal matter.

It's almost laughable how contradictory the infraction is, the reason was "insulting", if it's against the rules to insult people, a lot more posts should have been deleted than mine.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5858071)

Ok then, you tell me what is the difference between Pansexual and Bisexual. All I want is to understand the difference and I'm getting called ignorant and an idiot because of it, eventhough not one person has of yet been able to explain it to me.

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5858078)

Ridiculous but not at all surprising. Yeah some of the posts in here have shocked me, some from people who I'd imagine will have experienced struggles defining their sexuality themselves so to go and undermine someone in a similar position seems really bizarre to me.

And we both know that, it's only acceptable because it's not a commonly known identity. Had that comment been directed towards asexuals, bisexuals etc, I have absolutely no doubt that it would not have been tolerated. And to have one rule for some and another rule for others is effectively outcasting a small number of people who this is actually affecting.

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 5858082)

It has already been explained a few times.
Bisexual - Attracted physically and emotionally to men and women.
Pansexual - Attracted physically and emotionally to anyone, no matter what their gender is, here's a list of the possibilities, there's probably more that aren't on the list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ep...ist_of_genders

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5858087)

There are only two genders Jessica.

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 5858091)

:joker: Are you serious?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5858092)

Well if you need wiki to define any aspect of yourself you are in trouble if you ask me...

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 5858091)

:joker: Are you serious?

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5858098)

This forum is probably one of the most open minded and diverse places you'll find, that's kind of evident by the fact that only just over half the members here identify as heterosexual. That doesn't mean that everyone is an expert on complicated matters of sexual identification though, and it's a two way street, if you show no respect to people in a discussion then don't demand for people to show it back. It's entirely reasonable for people to question the term pansexual, because I also don't personally think it necessary to make the distinction between it and bisexual. Sure if you want to identify as that then that's your prerogative but don't be surprised if people express confusion at it, as the vast majority of the population would. The self righteousness is really quite pathetic.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5858086)

Don't be ridiculous Jack, you can't even tell me what a Pansexual is.

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 5858097)

I'm not Pansexual, what on earth are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5858108)

I didn't say you were, but is wiki really the most definitive source of information on this issue?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5858092)

you need wiki to define any aspect of yourself

Originally Posted by Apple202 (Post 5858116)

wow, just wow at this thread..

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5858033)

The problem is Jack that no one seems to be able to give a proper explanation as to how Pansexuals are any different to Bisexuals. If there was a clear difference there would be no confusion, how can you expect people to respect this "different" sexual orientation when as far as I can see there is no difference at all

Originally Posted by Apple202 (Post 5858126)

That's because you're choosing to ignore it, there is clear difference between bisexuals, who are attracted to males and females, and pansexuals, who are attracted to males, females, transgenders or whoever, regardless of gender...

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 5857725)

Bisexuals are attracted to male or females. Hence the 'bi' part meaning two

Pansexuals are attracted to male, female, transgender.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5857728)

Then you're suggesting that Transgenders are a different sexuality to male or female, isn't that discriminatory in itself?

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 5857732)

a good point, I don't know, it's the definition that I've always heard.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5857734)

Yeah I mean I sort of understand what you're saying but I'm sure there are plenty of "straight" or "bi" people who are in relationships with transgender people, do they then have to say they're actually Pansexual because they fell for a transgendered person and if that's the case isn't that insulting to their transgender partner?

Originally Posted by Apple202 (Post 5858155)

Seen as though it's recognised almost globally as a third gender, and some even swap in and out of being male or female, I really don't think it'd bother them too much, stop making it out to be transphobic when I'm simply giving the answer to you're question.

Anyway, what about pansexuals finding it offensive that people are refusing to see the difference between themselves and bisexuals? :conf: