It's not only just been "revealed" it was on the website apparently.

It was never labelled "non halal" so the fuss is bizarre.

Then why weren't people making fuss three days ago because their food wasn't clearly labelled? Where are all the threads on here demanding clearer food labelling? Nowhere. Because it wasn't a problem until the word 'Halal' was screamed out in the Sun's headlines.

Nobody really thinks 'I'm gonna go get pizza from Pizza Express but first I'm just gonna check the small print of the website to see what ingredients are included' though. It's not about the meat itself, it's the secrecy.

I note that no animal is religious

they know better than humans

That's the point, no one cared enough to check the details of what is in the pizza yet now it's a huge problem?

Whether it's in small print or not there was no "secrecy" they just didn't have a press release about it.

I can't answer either Livia, this is the first I've heard of it.

Och aye Dr Dolittle.

That's because it's not sold as halal chicken though, if you went to the supermarket, you'd be able to differentiate between the two, with it being made clear.

I'm interested to know what difference it makes to you though, Jake. The animal's just as dead. Unless you took a close interest in how abattoirs work previously, I don't see why you should be concerned about it now.

It's not sold as non-halal either.

Oh okay fair enough, I just think that it's only right to know what I'm eating, with the type of meat made clear. When Subway announced that they had certain stores changing their supply to halal, I was fine with that because I know that going to Subway might result in myself eating halal meat, which would be fine because that would be my choice.

But, as of yet, non-halal meat is standard unless stated otherwise? Or not?

Yeah... I get that.

Well the cry over food needing to be labelled is only just being brought up otherwise people are simply assuming what "standard" contains. Before this news came about people are happy to assume this and that but didn't require a sticker of authenticity.

Maybe we all need a bit more educating then, because to me, a packet labelled chicken doesn't mean 'Halal chicken' and so on

But apart from the way the chicken was killed, chicken is chicken? As far as I understand it?

If you have a religious or other reason to want one or the other then you're going to be a bit more careful about ensuring you are consuming halal or non halal.

If you just eat something under the assumption it's this or that without it being confirmed then it's your own fault.

Well if that's true are we all to blame for the horse-meat scandal?

No because non-halal chicken is chicken and halal chicken is chicken.

Beef and horse meat is not the same.

If we're talking about feeding you two different animals then there's a comparison otherwise there isn't one.

But, yes, in general, we're all to blame for consuming products under the assumption they are something they're not.

But, to me, it's still being sold something without the knowledge. If somebody doesn't want to eat halal meat, they shouldn't have to, even if halal is suddenly becoming the norm. Halal is packaged properly within stores and shops, why not elsewhere?

Ask them?

Yes it is being sold without the knowledge, but again that's been the case for a long time. It's our own fault.

Why would I? If it's become a thing that halal meat is labelled correctly within stores, why would I think that any other bit of chicken sold could be halal?

No, you just asked me why some stores don't label, it's not really a question I can answer is it? :laugh: So I suggested asking them.

Oh okay sorry, read it wrong :laugh:

Its like selling ladders that cant be walked under or mirrors that cant be cracked


we should tell muslims, eat our meat or bye

as they say to me on the euro-vision thread

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