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Marsh. 23-07-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8022668)
yeah i agree its hard to remember anyone from bb13 other that beauty queen deana x

Ha epilator >>>>>>>>>>>> Shievonne

Jason. 23-07-2015 07:19 PM

Shievonne was great. :nono:

Jason. 23-07-2015 07:20 PM

Wake up and smell the houmous.

armand.kay 23-07-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6 (Post 8022686)
Wake up and smell the houmous.

when she had to clutch oranges to stop her talking with her hands <3

Jason. 23-07-2015 07:21 PM

Oh yeah her hand talking.

Marsh. 23-07-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8022695)
when she had to clutch oranges to stop her talking with her hands <3

:laugh2:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 23-07-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8022647)
i think because of the aggressive black woman stereotype they need to be sweet as pie otherwise they are seen as aggressive.

Nah doesn't work either. Then you're labelled as fake or "something is off"

Marsh. 23-07-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8022704)
Nah doesn't work either. Then you're labelled as fake or "something is off"

Which equally applies to white housemates like Chloe.

Calderyon 23-07-2015 07:34 PM

Shievonne lost to Conor of all people. In a vote to save. By a margin of over 60%.

y.winter 23-07-2015 07:37 PM

lmao at Derek making it to the black female collage.

Shievonne's eviction outfit was panto, that's what I remember her for. :laugh:

armand.kay 23-07-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8022704)
Nah doesn't work either. Then you're labelled as fake or "something is off"

that's what annoyed me about adjoa being so hated. No one has a valid reason people on the bots panel just said their was something about her. Like wtf.

y.winter 23-07-2015 07:54 PM

She was quite shallow with her "I like puuseh", she did herself no favour. Saying that, I don't justify the horrible reception she got on eviction night, the crowd went automatically on "off! off!"-mode.

Mystic Mock 23-07-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8022762)
that's what annoyed me about adjoa being so hated. No one has a valid reason people on the bots panel just said their was something about her. Like wtf.

Adjoa could've been a mix of racism and jealousy that did her in.

susie q 23-07-2015 08:39 PM

Dont think its all down to racism, bb seems to have fallen into choosing a certain type of house mate like Charley who was brash and loud(Although she was the one I liked most during the hotel task), therefore creating their own stereotypes. I think they have also done it with male house mates. ie flambouyant gay males Mark last year, Aaron this year.
It seems like stereotypes are the safe option for them, but not necessarily confined to black females.

Pete. 23-07-2015 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8022713)
Which equally applies to white housemates like Chloe.

No the Sam crucifixion in the final week would have been worse than Chloe

Marsh. 23-07-2015 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 8022895)
No the Sam crucifixion in the final week would have been worse than Chloe

Would have?

I'm not here for hypotheticals. :nono:

Pete. 23-07-2015 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8022898)
Would have?

I'm not here for hypotheticals. :nono:

Well if producers didn't rob us in broad daylight we would have never known how far Sam would have gone

Marsh. 23-07-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 8022904)
Well if producers didn't rob us in broad daylight we would have never known how far Sam would have gone

Drag them racist prods

Robodog 23-07-2015 09:00 PM

I definitely don't think there is racism as an issue in BB. I think BB is one TV show where diversity is embraced and celebrated - the quirkier the better. I think most true fans don't even think about a HMs race these days, they just see the person.

But i can't help feeling there is some kind of sexism at play at times, especially with the eviction crowd. Watching this year i couldn't help notice that all the women (bar Chloe) got booed and heckled - usually for no reason. I don't know if it's sexism per se but there seems to be a lot of crowd hostility towards women who are attractive and strong minded ie perceived as a 'threat' in the less open-minded of the crowd members.

They didn't boo Chloe as (presumably) they had pigeon-holed her as the non-threatening 'girl next door type' but if she was more outspoken and sexually forthcoming, i bet she would have got booed like all the others.

TomC 23-07-2015 09:24 PM

I actually agree with the above post.

I was watching the BB6 final the other day, when the ex-HMs were welcomed back ALL the women were booed apart from Mary whos reception was OK And all the men were cheered bar Maxwell who had a few boos. It's unbelievacle, especially when many of the men behaved much worse than the women.

uniquedude 24-07-2015 01:37 PM

Seriously as a black person I find this so silly and pulling out the race card quicker than my dad wished he pulled out my mum.

Adjoa, Toya, Pauline, Charley, Gina: all did things worthy of eviction imo
Makosi and Gina both came third
People largely sided with Brian Belo over Helen and he's black.

What I find racist is Big Brother filling a quota of two black people a year, what about other ethnicities and nationalities. Bring in more Asians I say.

ThriceShy 24-07-2015 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7797043)
Lets be serious here, following Adjoa's unjustful eviction can some uncomfortable issues be raised when looking at the history of black female contestants on Big Brother.

Here are some examples:

Melanie: The first black female contestant was loved mostly amongst the house and yet not cared for by the public, she came last in Channel 4's 2005 Best Housemate poll.

Amma: The first Black contestant to receive the 'angry black girl' edit and was thus evicted when she was first up.

Adele: The first ever housemate to be heavily booed on their exit when the irony was that JADE was the main culprit for behaviour worthy of booing.

Vanessa: Her housemate qualities were largely overlooked by the public and people only commented that she ate too much. Her eviction came about when Vanessa and Makosi (the only black females) received the most votes from the public and when she was evicted in one of the cruellest evictions she was booed heavily.

Makosi - She came 3rd and top female of her year. However, in week 1 she could have easily have failed her mission and been nominated and evicted as the public had not gotten to know her yet. Also, on the week of Vanessa's eviction had it not been for the twist she would have been evicted with the most public votes. She also received one of the worst eviction receptions from the crowd in her final and in her UBB eviction.

BO Dawn - Confusingly Dawn was easily the favourite to go during the first eviction of BB7 but I can't see why.

Shilpa - Shilpa was treated awfully by the crowd and public before the race row exploded. Even when she won she was booed and some people STILL believe that Shilpa was in the wrong and only won out of pity

Nicky: The public again focused on the 'man-hating' side of Nicky and not the housemate that Nicky was and even Davina treated her unfairly.

Charley: Viewed as heavily aggressive by the public, and was constantly chanted by the crowd outside for weeks, despite not being up for eviction. Yet, Helen Wood, viewed as more aggressive than Charley and Alexandra and received 14 warning from BB in 2 weeks, won her series.

Sophia: Evicted the first week she was nominated by the public (although she did receive enough votes to become a housemate) with around 91% of the votes because she had two arguments with Saffia however Saffia left on the same day and the eviction should have been cancelled.

Hira: Heavily booed on entrance, however had the best reception for her series on her eviction but she was evicted over more hated housemates such as Lisa. She too treated awful by the producers who called her the most entertaining housemates in an attempt to humiliate her.

Rachel: Evicted on the first week against Sunshine who had received the most hate from the housemates and crowd alike and yet remained over Rachel.

Tashie: A nice girl, and yet the first evicted. Why? Because she did a sex tape

Heaven: Called out on fighting (in a two-sided manner with Rebeckah) and was evicted in week 3.

Shievonne: Went from being a favourite to most hated in a space of a few weeks. When she was nominated for the first time against CONOR she received only around 19% of the vote meaning that CONOR receievd about 81%.

Gina: Instantly disliked as a 'rich bitch' although I don't recall Grace etc getting as much hate as Gina did on her launch night. She must have narrowly escaped eviction against Sallie by around 1/2% and by doing so allowed time for the public to develop their opinion on her, mostly positively. She was easily favourite to win right up to the last minute when Sam overtook as the anti-Dexter and Gina vote.

Pauline - Also quickly went from being launch night favourite to national enemy in a period of a few days. Maybe she should have chilled out on the chicken but the point being that she was evicted with an incredible landslide bearing in mind it was a 7-way (?) eviction.

Toya A Washington - Toya was vilified after Hurricane Toya hit the house over the course of one weekend and she was evicted the first time she was nominated, arguably because she came across more ghetto when Marlon and Winston came over most aggressive.

Biannca - After Simon (:spin:) hold the record for the shortest time spent in the house, 4 days. The public latched on the fact she was a tad promiscuous and felt she deserved saving the least over PAV.

Adjoa - She did nothing to deserve chants and boos and was evicted her first time nominated for seemingly no apparent reason, even Emma agrees.

Sam - A lovely girl slated for being fake and scheming and was given very little airtime because she wasn't the stereotypical 'angry minority' etc.

This is NOT a baiting thread but one for serious debate and discussion. I for one believe there is a sinister undertone for the fact that black women are more rapidly hated than white females and men in general. The truth is that Shilpa is the only minority female housemate to win BB and people still think it was because of a pity vote and not because she was the best housemate. In the regular series, there have been 15 winners so far, and only one of them has been black, Brian.

Discuss please, I expect some level of disagreement

All those housemates you listed were vile for various reasons.

If you want to claim racism then you need to explain why Brian Belo won. Or why Nadia won. Or why Narinder was so popular.

reece(: 24-07-2015 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8024517)
All those housemates you listed were vile for various reasons.

If you want to claim racism then you need to explain why Brian Belo won. Or why Nadia won. Or why Narinder was so popular.

They were ALL vile?

Wow

ThriceShy 24-07-2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 8024623)
They were ALL vile?

Wow

Well most of them were. That list is virtually a who's who of my least liked housemates.

Adele was an awful bully and I couldn't stand Mel in BB1 and it certainly wasn't her race that was the problem.

Yeah, to be honest, with the exception of Hira, who didn't really do anything, they are all horrible housemates.

Macie Lightfoot 24-07-2015 05:31 PM

alol people dismissing any possible racism because one black person won.


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