Because they didn't intend for the original to play so well to the crowd it played well to (incels).


For Alf: The soy latte feminist boy did not say that the original isn't a good movie. It is a good movie. That was used as wank fodder by a LOT of men who did not understand what they were watching. It was not supposed to be a Redpill power fantasy. If they've corrected that perception with the sequel - which it sounds like they may well have done - then I applaud them wholeheartedly, no matter how low their metacritic rating sinks. Bravo. I hope the silly billies who got off imagining themselves as the Joker in the first film left the cinema early, in tears. I truly, truly do.

For reference you could take both Fight Club and American Psycho as comparisons.

I love both of those movies. I love both of those movies because I have the media literacy to know what the message of those movies actually is.

However I also know that there are a lot of wee boys out there wetting their knickers imagining themselves as Tyler Durden or Patrick Bateman... Not realising that - like Arthur Fleck - these are pathetic, miserable and broken characters who you are not supposed to hero worship :facepalm:.

Quite right Cherie, why bother enjoying any analysis of a piece of media when you can just shut off your brain and gawp at the screen for a couple of hours?

yep correct, I dont dig too deep :laugh: works for me and I am super chilled

Each to their own, I do a bit of both to be fair. Rewatched "Dude, Where's My Car?" last weekend; a real modern masterpiece.

I love that film :laugh:

The best part is that eldest watched it with us so now finally knows why I say "aaaaand theeeeennnn?" over and over when asking what she wants from a take away :joker:

I played the YouTube clip of that scene to my son to explain why me and Gav always say that haha