Well said Gstar

...for me, I don’t think it was just because she was the loudest ...there would always be a time, I feel...when Jade was going to have a ‘downfall’...it was just, how it was going to happen...and when it did happen in the way it did...the others involved, in a way...just became the add-ons, the side-players as it were...the media’s main focus was Jade, because they had hounded her, they were appalled by her/by her celebrity...she was a ‘chav’..she was a ‘pig’..?...how dare she sustain the celebrity that she did, how dare her success be what it was and she be adored by her fanbase..?..I mean, was she not listening to how worthless she was and how undeserving she was because she was told on a regular basis by the media...the others in the house, as awful as they all behaved...were not where the media interest lay...it was only really Jade...this was the moment they had been waiting for...the inevitable moment that was always going to be...


...as awful as Jade’s behaviour in the house over those days and as awful as the behaviour of the others...the media and their snobbery about her celebrity over such a long period of time...the cruelty of it and the persistency of it...?...was horrendous...

I can't remember who said it in the doc, but they said that by putting her entire family in, with the comfort of being waitered on, and in a show and house that made her career the first time, Jade became very comfortable. It gave her the impression that she was within the safety of her own house where she can do whatever. I agree with that completely. The task set the series up completely.

Now, this may not be a popular opinion, but leading up to Jackie's eviction, Shilpa to me was a bit unlikeable. Turning her nose up etc... it's not until Jackie left where Shilpa got better...ironically that is the point where the other 4 started ganging up on her.

Also, all this focus on Jade back in 2007 when the other 3 were worse. I will never know how Jack never got the abuse, and seeing his smarmy face last night really made me angry.

I remember this part, it was so well said :clap1: Even the way she walked in with Jack looked like she was going into her own house. The part what scares me is her mum saying something like "this isn't going to be good" whilst walking towards the house :worry: If you think about it.. what did she mean by saying that? I've always been a strong believer in the phrase "a mother always knows" and the part where Jackie said that was a prime example

In regards to the servants twist it shows how these things can have a lasting effect on the series, take CBB13 where they were handcuffed on launch night, Casey was handcuffed to Lee and we all know how that series went

This series had so many great housemates we really were spoilt shame that other things overshadowed it

I think Jackie has to take a lot of the blame for the way Jade reacted, she should have been a better role model yet she really failed her daughter

I also think Jade was easily manipulated into situations because she wanted to be loved and the 2 girls gave her the feeling of love (not that you can excuse what she said)

My heart broke watching this :(
You can tell she was genuinely sorry and shocked by her behaviour. Jo tried to blame producers and Danielle carried on like nothing had happened. The segment of The News Of The World trying their best to break her (and even fill her with false info/get her to apologise for things she hadn’t even said) made my blood boil. The people behind the news papers were no better than the monster they’d made Jade out to be.

It still upsets me that it took Jade to get cancer to finally be forgiven.

I think Jackiey would be the first to admit that to be fair.

still such a weird combo of Jade goody, Jo from s club 7 and Danielle lloyd

Last night was really hard to watch. I agree with whoever said that how has Danielle got away with it when all 3 and Jack were culpiable in the racism but Jade gets the brunt because of who she was. I remember all the India stuff though and being breaking news on Sky news my mum was like did that all happen and I said yes do you not remember.
I remember when it was announced Jade Jackie and Jack were going in and my stomach sank. It would have been better if just Jade had gone in although it might have been the same result. I did laugh at Leo walking and Dermot saying he got in a Bill police car as he thought it was a real one :laugh:
Cant really believe it was over ten years ago too it seems a lot longer to me.

But even when Jade helped her change her life she was still let down and that should have been a turning point for Jackiey not a reason to keep letting her down and letting her get into situations any normal mother wouldnt .

I feel for Jade because for all the faults she had she never really stood a chance in life and I wish she had Stayed with Jeff and they wasnt forced apart as he truly lived her and to this day still wont say a bad word apart her an who knows she probaly wouldnt be in the situations she found herself

I couldn't believe Dermot's story about Leo and the fake police car :joker: It's also strange that they made it seem like he left because of Jade and her family - that was never the case?

Just watched episode 2

Its crazy watching back.

They were very silly for the things they said and it can't be excused and was very immature and ignorant

But I did believe Jade's apologies and I was sobbing along with her.

It was heartbreaking seeing on the first episode the turn around she had in the house and the reaction she had when she was evicted compared to watching her come out of the celebrity big brother house to no crowd and a massive lot of hate being fired at her. I can also imagine it being a total surreal experience for davina you can see that in her face

Looking back yes racist things were said but it looks like a lot of it also stemmed from a difference in class and this was set up by big brother on purpose they should be held accountable for that. Jade shouldn't have ever gone in that house. She was there for ratings and I think was set up in a really cruel way actually

It was sad seeing her reaction to her mum being evicted without shoes like that its obvious she wanted her mum to have a similar experience to the one she had first time around

I honestly don't get how Danielle Jo and Jack didn't get as much backlash as Jade. But Jade was the nations princess who the media hated and that hate gave them a lot of money so for them to get to hate her again I'm sure they loved that

The things people said and the things tabloids said are completely detestable and worse than what she had said

I remember the whole thing when it first played out what I didn't understand was the journey she had in bb3 and the fame after and it is so strange to see how it was all lost in the end

I will not excuse the things she had said but I think it was made in to a lot more than it actually was and I think producers had pushed it to happen. But that was the start of the decline of big brother...

Yeah, I remember he left because he ran out of clean pants and didn't want to manually wash them. :joker:

Not that it’s necessary but it would be nice to see Shilpa in part 3

Did Jackiey not even know she had been signed up?

I find that extremely hard to believe.

Like Jono said though, it was probably when she took Jackiey to the meeting with producers that she surprised her with it. I can't imagine she can just rock up on the night without having negotiated/signed a contract. :laugh:

That’d make more sense for sure, it was a stupid idea putting her in anyway tbh, I really can’t imagine how she passed any tests

...I wonder, had her health been different...if she could have turned it all around for herself, she was working so hard trying to...but would the media have ever allowed it...?...they resented her celebrity status so much...

I imagine she would've gone in again in the Ch5 era maybe as a BB16 legend?

It's on.

This is gonna be so sad.

Oh didn't realize this was the last one

...she wasn’t a ‘disgrace to Britain’...she didn’t represent anyone except herself...