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The Slim Reaper 16-08-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11084498)
It's not beyond comprehension that Western citizens can be active in Middle East affairs without a malign motive and with a genuine interest in positive change in the region

I completely agree; the arms industry ain't it though.

Nicky91 16-08-2021 01:24 PM

why is the Taliban back in control a bad thing though? :shrug:


i mean they really seem to be wanting to do things differently than last time around (1996-2001)


more diplomacy, more working together to solve any issues

bots 16-08-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11084508)
why is the Taliban back in control a bad thing though? :shrug:


i mean they really seem to be wanting to do things differently than last time around (1996-2001)


more diplomacy, more working together to solve any issues

no they are not. They have already executed innocent people

MTVN 16-08-2021 01:30 PM

So what are the allegations against QinetiQ? From looking them up most of their products are in things like surveillance and radar technology. One of their major products is used to detect and disable roadside bombs for instance. How many lives has that saved if we're throwing around accusations of them being culpable for murder?

Cherie 16-08-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11084494)
one of the things the taliban ban is music. I couldn't live in a world without music

and keeping pets, just listened to a father whose son died out there and he had a buddy dog that they managed to bring back, they now have an animal charity with many female vets with 98 dogs and 88 cats and they hope to bring them all back to the UK

Nicky91 16-08-2021 01:43 PM

the past is in the past, let's just focus on the present and maybe we should give their plan a chance, to solve most issues in the country

the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a very famous saying


and i fear the rise of new terror groups more than the taliban, so i'd say it is a good thing they want strong international diplomatic alliances

Niamh. 16-08-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11084513)
the past is in the past, let's just focus on the present and maybe we should give their plan a chance, to solve most issues in the country

the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a very famous saying


and i fear the rise of new terror groups more than the taliban, so i'd say it is a good thing they want strong international diplomatic alliances

I'm sure all the women in Afghanistan are resting easy........

Nicky91 16-08-2021 01:49 PM

yes ok the anti women's rights is only thing i disagree with them, and also anti-music, anti-pets

but tbh no country in the world is perfect :laugh:



if better international relations can prevent new threats like Al Qaeda or even worse ISIL, then yes we should recognize them as new leaders of afghanistan and we should accept their terms

MTVN 16-08-2021 01:50 PM

Anyone heard anything from Biden yet

Niamh. 16-08-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11084517)
yes ok the anti women's rights is only thing i disagree with them, and also anti-music, anti-pets

but tbh no country in the world is perfect :laugh:



if better international relations can prevent new threats like Al Qaeda or even worse ISIL, then yes we should recognize them as new leaders of afghanistan and we should accept their terms

I mean to make that statement with the word "only" and a laughing emoji? I don't even know how to respond to that.....

bots 16-08-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11084519)
Anyone heard anything from Biden yet

he is on holiday at camp david apparently. Really showing his caring side

The Slim Reaper 16-08-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11084510)
So what are the allegations against QinetiQ? From looking them up most of their products are in things like surveillance and radar technology. One of their major products is used to detect and disable roadside bombs for instance. How many lives has that saved if we're throwing around accusations of them being culpable for murder?

Their share price is up again today, and it's not because they are a benign influence disabling road side bombs. They know full well what the Taliban back in Afghanistan will mean for their industry. They use some very coded language to describe their tactical exercises that I'll see if I can dig out for you (can't remember where I read it a while back but remember that even companies like blackwater don't describe themselves as murderers in their own literature), and it's a company that's achieved it's massive financial successes on the backs of the Afghani people.
They're war profiteers.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/q...ss-qdcw2w603w9

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E86OrQQW...pg&name=medium

Oliver_W 16-08-2021 02:10 PM

I guess the Taliban aren't actually any different from any other islamic "government", but they won't have a bloodless takeover.

Alf 16-08-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11084519)
Anyone heard anything from Biden yet


arista 16-08-2021 03:48 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08...9128037040.jpg

Yesterday making the Airport close down.

joeysteele 16-08-2021 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11084517)
yes ok the anti women's rights is only thing i disagree with them, and also anti-music, anti-pets

but tbh no country in the world is perfect :laugh:



if better international relations can prevent new threats like Al Qaeda or even worse ISIL, then yes we should recognize them as new leaders of afghanistan and we should accept their terms

Actually, I think even just the anti Women's rights should be why they should NEVER be in power anywhere.

arista 16-08-2021 03:57 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08...9111597855.jpg

arista 16-08-2021 04:11 PM

Dominic Raab Foreign Secretary
has come back from his Cyprus Holiday
Back in Westminster.

So Labour can stop moaning, now.

arista 16-08-2021 04:38 PM

President Biden is due to talk Live at 8:45PM UK time

arista 16-08-2021 05:18 PM

BBCnews showing protests outside the White House

And Biden is to talk today, he has cut his holiday.

arista 16-08-2021 06:47 PM

Dominic Raab Foreign Secretary
claims he will hold the Taliban to account?


So what
as if they care what he says?

Cherie 16-08-2021 07:06 PM

Already all the boutiques, beauty salons and hairdressers have been closed and any female images painted over ...

Sheila Fogerty had to deal with a particularly nasty man on her phone in today who supported what was going on

Beso 16-08-2021 07:37 PM

People are clinging to the us military planes as they try and take off.

They are taking off and people are falling from them.


Great work joe...really, well done there sir..

arista 16-08-2021 08:04 PM

Biden is now Live

all media.

joeysteele 16-08-2021 08:11 PM

Not impressed with this speech at all from Biden.

I think he has acted unwisely on this and he is wrong.
Air power should have been left in place to help the Afghan forces on the ground.
In my view.

No, Biden is making a poor account of himself and his decision to act so quickly to enact his predecessor's previous set up policy.


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