Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645385)

The majority of girls are feminine and have built in ‘instincts’

Pink has raised her daughter in a ‘different’ way and the result is a tomboy - that’s going against the law of averages .

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11645387)

No it is not, not being a "girly-girl" isn't that rare ffs and it certainly isn't new. And what is wrong with being a tomboy?

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11645378)

I agree with that. Although, I also think too many parents go to far the other way in terms of expecting gender conformity and that's actually part of the - for want of a better word - confusion.

If people keep insisting "Boys are x/y/z and girls are a/b/c" then inevitably when you have a boy that likes and does "girl stuff" or a girl that likes and does "boy stuff" (be that activities, fashion or anything else) then it inevitably causes a mess when, of course, some boys and girls don't like "the right things" -- and then, perhaps, start to believe that if they "like that stuff" and "like that look" then they MUST "be that gender"... because that's what the world has told them repeatedly. When it is in fact just all random established social norms that mean nothing about sex or gender, other than when people insist on conformity.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645388)

Why are you equating minority to RARE

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645383)

Exactly

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11645390)

Why are you avoiding answering the question? What is wrong with not being a "girly-girl"? Why is it such an issue for you?

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11645393)

But that's been a sub-culture with women for decades at this point.

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11645401)

I don't even consider it a subculture. It's just women who are a bit more down to earth. I was like this but I am feminine and into cute also.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11645402)

Fair enough.

Either way I don't get why some people are finding Tomboys a foreign concept lol.

I saw two people on YouTube a couple of days ago do the same thing as Zizu, only through the lens of Trans identity instead of sexual attraction.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645375)

Who knows what that kind of parenting leads to ??

Seems odd that her daughter just happens to present as a non girly -girl ..

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645397)

Its not an issue

We have a wonderful tomboy granddaughter as I mentioned earlier

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11645416)

Seems regardless of the types of parenting they both are tomboyish…

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11645425)

…I would have said that Willow’s styling…(Pink!’s daughter…)…is a style that Pink! herself is known for as well…that kind of tee shirt and baggy combat/comfy look and multiple generations have had similar versions for their time…I’ve often worn the ‘baggy look’ myself because it’s comfortable and cute…and many females who would be considered as ‘feminine’ in their styling have also chosen shaved or very short hair at times as well…but yeah, I would say that with Willow…?…her style influence is possibly her mom….

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645427)

Maybe… , maybe not


Maybe it needs some research

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11645431)

Based on what you’ve said you’ve just shown regardless of parenting, they are tomboyish. :laugh:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645433)

Maybe , maybe not ..

Our granddaughters are/were brought up the traditional way ..

Pink’s a different way .. maybe as mentioned above Willow( Pink’s daughter) has simply been influenced by her mum’s dress sense/ style ?

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645385)

The majority of girls are feminine and have built in ‘instincts’

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11645405)

It is strange how so many very regular things suddenly became foreign entities in the past decade.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11645488)

Zizu has removed himself from the conversation. You can stop brow-beating him now.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11645427)

Maybe… , maybe not


Maybe it needs some research

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11645496)

Pink seems to be using willow as a fashion accessory.

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11645514)

OK so I'm not saying that some celebrities (and some parents in general) aren't guilty of this, but...

...where is there any indication of this? If it's just that she's been influenced by her mother's style a bit, that isn't unusual at all, I can't see where there's any indication that it's been led or forced by parent-influence? Unless there's more info I'm not aware of beyond a few pictures. Seems a huge assumption if it's just going by the similar style.

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11645521)

No baggy jeans visible when pink is in a dress...and no dress when pink is dressed more casually.