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Ammi 20-12-2019 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10738527)
I mean to be fair, we've had plenty of counterexamples in the past... People just gloss over it with time. Good ol Churchill had some very dodgy views but people on here get a bit miffed if you talk about that [emoji23]

...hmmmm, it couldn’t be said though at the time of his election to PM..that he was being endorsed by prejudice/hate groups in the same way...I get what you’re saying but it’s not really a comparable...?...

Ammi 20-12-2019 08:26 AM

....’turkeys voting for Christmas’ is a widely known and acknowledged philosophy...I’m just looking at the wiki page on it...in the USA, it’s ‘turkeys voting for thanksgiving’, which is used for the philosophy...or ‘chickens voting for Colonel Sanders’...Germany apparently has...’Only the most stupid calves would vote for their butchers’....

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2019 08:57 AM

It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-predictable/

good article about insulting voters

arista 20-12-2019 08:59 AM

The PM was Live in Parliament
pushing his New Brexit Deal through.

Sad Corbyn is talking now

Ammi 20-12-2019 09:06 AM

....hmmmm no, it doesn’t appear that ‘everyone I disagree with is Hitler’ is a widely known and acknowledged leftist school philosophy...I’m thinking that one might be more the ...keep insulting people who disgaree with you/type...

The Slim Reaper 20-12-2019 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10738541)
It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-predictable/

good article about insulting voters

So...a phrase in common parlance to describe voters voting against their own interests is bad, but the strawmanning of the left is good?

Since the election, Johnson has gone back on his pledge to protect workers rights in his deal, he's now put conditions on his hourly wage pledge, rips up his pledge to protect migrant children, is being promoted by the far right, he's about to redistrict voting areas to make sure the tories remain in power. All perfectly normal though.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2019 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10738548)
So...a phrase in common parlance to describe voters voting against their own interests is bad, but the strawmanning of the left is good?

Since the election, Johnson has gone back on his pledge to protect workers rights in his deal, he's now put conditions on his hourly wage pledge, rips up his pledge to protect migrant children, is being promoted by the far right, he's about to redistrict voting areas to make sure the tories remain in power. All perfectly normal though.

Johnson won and won by a barrelload - people like him and what he is doing, you dont like him and will try to find anything possible to be negative, at some point slim you have to accept your views are not popular and people dont agree with your worldview

and move on

The Slim Reaper 20-12-2019 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10738550)
Johnson won and won by a barrelload - people like him and what he is doing, you dont like him and will try to find anything possible to be negative, at some point slim you have to accept your views are not popular and people dont agree with your worldview

and move on

I don't disagree with most of that, but the fact people like what he's doing says absolutely nothing about whether it will help their lives, and I'm not trying to find anything to be negative about, he's doing these things out in the open.

I've moved on, I said the day after the election how badly I misjudged the public. Again, that says nothing about the reality of what Johnson is doing.

Finally, telling everyone to act like a serf and subjugate themselves at the feet of Boris seems like the antithesis of what I would expect from a political tough talker like your good self..

Tom4784 20-12-2019 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10738526)
calling voters Turkeys who are "so stupid" they vote for their own death

its beyond insulting and arrogant

You're strangely offended given that you say you voted for SNP. Why would a phrase aimed at Tory voters upset you so much when your party of choice literally has gotten where it's gotten to by opposing the tories?

Doesn't make much sense.

Also pearl clutching never works out for you, I don't know why you keep defaulting back to it when it's easy enough to drum up posts where you describe a child with asperger's as disturbed and worse besides.

Kizzy 20-12-2019 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10738451)
SLIM
stop posting FAKE NEWS please


[Britain First leader Paul Golding's Conservative Party application 'not approved]


Thank you to poster Jet
who posted the the link on my Corbyn thread.

Again...that was 1 man. There are 1000s of Britain first members obviously not as high profile who have been instructed to join the conservatives. Read the articles posted by myself and slim again.
Please don't be railroaded by misinformation arista.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2019 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10738672)
Again...that was 1 man. There are 1000s of Britain first members obviously not as high profile who have been instructed to join the conservatives. Read the articles posted by myself and slim again.
Please don't be railroaded by misinformation arista.

no there are 800 members and the number who actually do try and become tory members will be a fraction of that

the 2 words that would be ideal here are totally inconsequential

Beso 20-12-2019 01:47 PM

They sure did..which is why the labour party got the biggest kick in its balls it's ever had..yet there he is, the cause of it all...still clinging onto the tiniest slither of power he has, which was the only thing that mattered to him.

But we saw through that as well and sent him on his way..now do the decent thing Jeremy and **** of to the backbench where you belong, plotting against your own party.

Kizzy 20-12-2019 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10738673)
no there are 800 members and the number who actually do try and become tory members will be a fraction of that

the 2 words that would be ideal here are totally inconsequential

Oh look at you jumping about in an attempt to discredit the article.. hmm

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2019 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10738681)
Oh look at you jumping about in an attempt to discredit the article.. hmm

no i am correcting your error

you should be thanking me

Kizzy 20-12-2019 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10738682)
no i am correcting your error

you should be thanking me

When I need your help I'll ask for it, untill then hold your breath... :joker:

Oliver_W 20-12-2019 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10738681)
Oh look at you jumping about in an attempt to discredit the article.. hmm

Which part of the article said Britain First have "thousands" of members?

I hope someone didn't let herself be railroaded by misinformation.

jet 20-12-2019 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10738672)
Again...that was 1 man. There are 1000s of Britain first members obviously not as high profile who have been instructed to join the conservatives. Read the articles posted by myself and slim again.
Please don't be railroaded by misinformation arista.

Instructed or not, whether or not they manage to join anonymously as not being BF members, they are not welcome.

The article I posted clearly states:

.....membership applicants receive an automatic confirmation ahead of a fuller vetting process.....members of Britain First and the individual you cite would certainly not be welcome in the Conservative Party."

Is that clear enough for you...

Beso 20-12-2019 07:14 PM

Maybe it's just Britain first members changing thier minds like a large percentage of the labour party did in the voting...

And then papers jazzing it up for the chickens that would vote for not being part of a joke.

arista 21-12-2019 08:10 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...9338_times.jpg

arista 22-12-2019 10:40 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMWYeAcW...jpg&name=small

Fella you better Fly to NZ
then.

arista 22-12-2019 10:50 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...08_express.jpg

The Slim Reaper 22-12-2019 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10739889)

Basic maths proves this as laughable. Best government guesses at the moment (and they're obviously pro-brexit so theres a chance they're heavily weighted for), shows that brexit will cost 1.6% of the economy and they're saying trade deals with US and Australia will mitigate that loss to 1.4%.

Livia 22-12-2019 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10738541)
It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-predictable/

good article about insulting voters

Good post, and interesting article.

Kizzy 22-12-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10739913)
Good post, and interesting article.

It's only interesting if you're subscribed.
It's not a good post, it's a very skewed post that doesn't examine any reasoning why that corellation has been drawn at all.

Could it not be classes as 'palpable nonsense' that there is a leftist school of thought that believes that everyone who disagrees with them is Hitler? :/

This is a very hipocritical post that attempt to pass wild accusations off as debate.

arista 22-12-2019 02:21 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1187417...jpg&name=small

Yes Nigel
Johnson Got a Massive Win.
As you called it
The Brexit Election.


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