I'm gonna take some time out, i'm extremely furious and I'm going to say something I regret.

i didnt say it was a sob story.

See my first line. Calm down. I can empathise actually

Dezzy I can empathise.

i think some death note could help you.:hugesmile:

It is completely unfair once again to shout out orders now it's telling Dezzy to calm down. Like you've done that the whole time you've been in this debate! He was only making a valid point.

Dezzy made a valid point. Angus doesn't know anything about any of our lives and claims that anyones opinion who differs from hers doesn't have 'experience' in life. It wasn't about sob stories.

Agreed. He was perfectly calm and lucid in his comments.

OK and I'm sorry. Tough debate thread I guess and I'm sorry to you too.

Oh, this is a debate that could go round and round in circles for ever!

To summarise before I go to sleepyland: I think the justice system in this country sucks ass, I'm for the death sentence and jail sentences should be made tougher..

Oh and parenthood WILL change your opinions.

Night night Y'all :)

I agree!

You agree with capital punishment? Wonder how many do in here. I don't anyway.

good night.

Thought Dezzy was a woman :blush:

i dont know tbh.

No one knows anything about anyones lives on here

Exactly, so Angus shouldn't be one to judge who has had experience and who hasn't.

So no one should have an opinion on a forum full stop

tbf i think shes going by how most people would act.

Where did I say that?

Angus talks sense..

Night night again :)

She can only go by how she would act.

That's a disingenuous statement - who said anything about killing "suspected" criminals. How about confining punishment to "convicted" ones? I guarantee the country would indeed flourish if we cleared out the PROVEN murderers, rapists and paedophiles.

Since execution is no longer an option, how about actually locking them up and throwing away the key. In fact the shortness of sentences has less to do with the moralistic arguments of being compassionate blah blah blah, and more to do with the economics of keeping these criminals long term in jail. That's the bottom line, and why there is no morality in the judicial system. Criminals who have committed the most horrendous crimes are freed to re-offend because it costs too much to keep them locked up, and since extermination is not an option what else is there?

Not one dissenter on here has given any viable options.

Look, I've apologized to Dezzy. Genuinely never want to upset people

ive got to say your coming up with some class posts today angus58,but another option could be to chop there hands off.