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Vicky. 31-07-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5355391)
Latest tweet from BBxtra (bad source I know)

Team mackers has been reported to the police

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If true, good.

If people can be arrested for one racist tweet about a footballer surely something can be done about the amount of abuse (racist/homophobia/transphobia/etc) on that page too.

Quoting my own post as I feel its quite important to the thread yet seems to have got lost amongst the new wave of 'deana brings it on herself' posts :bored:

chuff me dizzy 31-07-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 5355411)
Given that he has no valid reason or explaination for his hate for her, you can't blame people for thinking that it's possible the hate is related to Deana's race. Given the racist comments on the Team Conor page, it certainly wouldn't be surprising. I'm not saying Conor is racist, but it's possible he grew up with no exposure to Indian culture and therefore has an aversion of sorts.

And it's not just that he doesn't like Deana, it's the aggressive comments he's made about her that make people question what is going on in his head.

So YOU who have never met Conor, have the right to label him a racist because he doesnt like your fav in a tv show

Vanessa 31-07-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 5355430)
So YOU who have never met Conor, have the right to label him a racist because he doesnt like your fav in a tv show

I know! It doesn't make sense! :bored:

iRyan 31-07-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5355421)
Deana isn't the one who goes around threatening to stuff epilators up people's arses along with the stream of other extremely abusive remarks and threats made to a housemate she simply dislikes.

Conor is. So saying 'I've heard HER mention how much she doesnt like HIM a lot more' is completely trivial and irrelevant. Unless you're saying hurling tirades of extreme abuse and threats at someone unnecessarily is better than banging on about disliking him without resorting to any abuse, not to talk of tirades of extreme abuse. And you seem to labour under the illusion that it's all right for Conor to be abusive but Deana can't even mention how much she dislikes Conor (its only crime being you think she repeatedly makes the same statements over and over again) - which totally contradicts and obliterates your ridiculous argument?

Very true.

sampvt 31-07-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AshesonMars (Post 5355407)
I find your hypocrisy loathsome. Racism cuts both ways. Stop patronising and generalising 'white people.' I, as well as many other 'white people', have spoken out against the disgustingly racist comments Conor's family, girlfriend, friends and his fans have been posting. I can understand your anger, but your bigoted and ignorant comments about 'white people', as you refer to us, is beyond boring now. Being of White European descent is as much a race as being of Afro Caribbean etc., descent. White people have experienced racism too. I myself have experienced it frequently. No race holds the monopoly on racism. Have you never heard of Kriss Donald? He is one of the many white victims of racism.

Yes, as per usual, Chuff has steered this thread off topic because of her hatred towards Deana and because she seems to think that people criticising Conor's family and friends/fans for posting vile racist, homophobic and transphobic abuse towards HMs is the same as criticising them because they dislike them. It isn't, but unfortunately Chuff appears to lack the intelligence to distinguish the difference out of the two.

Why let this bizarre 'female' who uses 'chuff' in their username and uses an avatar of a smoking baby, bother you so much? She's a poorly educated nobody who has created an online persona on a forum that she thinks makes herself look like a 'big man.' It doesn't and she's not. She's just trash and quite a tragic individual, imo.

Whoops, big brain fart.....:nono:

reece(: 31-07-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5355427)
Quoting my own post as I feel its quite important to the thread yet seems to have got lost amongst the new wave of 'deana brings it on herself' posts :bored:

It happens every time:laugh:

I'm glad it's been reported, Official BB on facebook is all kicking off right now.

Redway 31-07-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 5355411)
Given that he has no valid reason or explaination for his hate for her, you can't blame people for thinking that it's possible the hate is related to Deana's race. Given the racist comments on the Team Conor page, it certainly wouldn't be surprising. I'm not saying Conor is racist, but it's possible he grew up with no exposure to Indian culture and therefore has an aversion of sorts.

And it's not just that he doesn't like Deana, it's the aggressive comments he's made about her that make people question what is going on in his head.

It could be anything, though. Why does everything have to be directed to race?

iRyan 31-07-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 5355430)
So YOU who have never met Conor, have the right to label him a racist because he doesnt like your fav in a tv show

Did you not read my post? I said, I'm not saying he's racist. But you can't blame people for thinking there is a possibly that his hate towards Deana may be somewhat racially motivated.

chuff me dizzy 31-07-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5355433)
I know! It doesn't make sense! :bored:

It is as sick as the comments on Conors facebook page

Vanessa 31-07-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 5355439)
Did you not read my post? I said, I'm not saying he's racist. But you can't blame people for thinking there is a possibly that his hate towards Deana may be somewhat racially motivated.

Maybe he just doesn't like her? We all have people we really hate in life. :shrug:

iRyan 31-07-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5355438)
It could be anything, though. Why does everything have to be directed to race?

Because unfortunately racism is still alive all over the world, and it's not out of the question to wonder. I don't think anyone here is outright calling Conor a racist, i'm not at least. But as I said, given the fact that his friends and family and fans from Derry have been posting racist things, it's not out of the question that Conor may have a similar mindset.

rayheartbliss 31-07-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 5354372)
think of a good reason to support your fav

Take you're own advise.

you'll need it.

reece(: 31-07-2012 08:35 PM

It's all speculation on our part, but we know that some of the members of the group have been abuse on many levels. Unfortunately speculating on here comes across as we're labelling them all racists, bullies etc when that's just not true. Read the posts.

iRyan 31-07-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 5355440)
It is as sick as the comments on Conors facebook page

So saying there is a possibly that someone may have racist tendencies is as bad as actually saying racist, transphobic, violent, and homophobic comments? Give me a break, chuff.

rayheartbliss 31-07-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5355444)
Maybe he just doesn't like her? We all have people we really hate in life. :shrug:

just by reading that....
honestly, i don't believe that you are a 39 years old grown woman.

how old are you really? 14? 16?

Redway 31-07-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 5355448)
Because unfortunately racism is still alive all over the world, and it's not out of the question to wonder. I don't think anyone here is outright calling Conor a racist, i'm not at least. But as I said, given the fact that his friends and family and fans from Derry have been posting racist things, it's not out of the question that Conor may have a similar mindset.

But ... other types of bullying.

Racial discrimination isn't the only sort of 'alive' discrimination in the world - others are.

My question remains - what about the other sorts of discrimination we have today?

chuff me dizzy 31-07-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 5355439)
Did you not read my post? I said, I'm not saying he's racist. But you can't blame people for thinking there is a possibly that his hate towards Deana may be somewhat racially motivated.

But you used the word RACIST twice, without 1 iota of proof, IF conor leaves the house and says LIVE on tv, yes I hated Deana because of her race, THEN feel free to say these things ,But until then it is better left unsaid

iRyan 31-07-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5355444)
Maybe he just doesn't like her? We all have people we really hate in life. :shrug:

I never said that wasn't possible, but it also is possible there are other contributing factors such as Deana's race. All these bigoted comments being made by those who know Conor is what's leading people to understandably speculate that Conor may be cut from a similar cloth. Again, it's just speculation. Nobodies saying it's a fact Conor is racist.

chuff me dizzy 31-07-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 5355458)
It's all speculation on our part, but we know that some of the members of the group have been abuse on many levels. Unfortunately speculating on here comes across as we're labelling them all racists, bullies etc when that's just not true. Read the posts.

"Members in the group" YES but not Conor himself

iRyan 31-07-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5355471)
But ... other types of bullying.

Racial discrimination isn't the only sort of 'alive' discrimination in the world - others are.

My question remains - what about the other sorts of discrimination we have today?

Of course not, which is why I mentioned the transphobic, violent, and homophobic comments that were also made on the page in my above post :)

Mystic Mock 31-07-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rayheartbliss (Post 5355470)
just by reading that....
honestly, i don't believe that you are a 39 years old grown woman.

how old are you really? 14? 16?

Hey.:nono::joker:

chuff me dizzy 31-07-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 5355475)
I never said that wasn't possible, but it also is possible there are other contributing factors such as Deana's race. All these bigoted comments being made by those who know Conor is what's leading people to understandably speculate that Conor may be cut from a similar cloth. Again, it's just speculation. Nobodies saying it's a fact Conor is racist.

But you are tarring all of them with the same brush ,if they have posted bad things on his facebook page( he knows nothing about) HE must be like them ? oh come on

reece(: 31-07-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 5355482)
"Members in the group" YES but not Conor himself

For the millionth time, I've never slated Conor himself. I've highlighted upon the members of the group...

Redway 31-07-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 5355473)
But you used the word RACIST twice, without 1 iota of proof, IF conor leaves the house and says LIVE on tv, yes I hated Deana because of her race, THEN feel free to say these things ,But until then it is better left unsaid

He substantiated his statement. Now pay attention. Think really hard about this and don't reply giving me nonsense, with scant regard for what is actually said.

He said that it's natural for people to question Conor being racist because of his treatment towards Deana.

Whilst I think all that's a load of bollocks, it's true and that's his claim.

iRyan 31-07-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 5355473)
But you used the word RACIST twice, without 1 iota of proof, IF conor leaves the house and says LIVE on tv, yes I hated Deana because of her race, THEN feel free to say these things ,But until then it is better left unsaid

Read my post again, chuff.

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Given that he has no valid reason or explaination for his hate for her, you can't blame people for thinking that it's possible the hate is related to Deana's race. Given the racist comments on the Team Conor page, it certainly wouldn't be surprising. I'm not saying Conor is racist, but it's possible he grew up with no exposure to Indian culture and therefore has an aversion of sorts.

And it's not just that he doesn't like Deana, it's the aggressive comments he's made about her that make people question what is going on in his head.
I used to word 'racist' to describe the comments made by the Facebook page, not Conor. I'm not saying Conor is outright racist, but I'm saying that it's not out of the question to speculate that race may be a contributing factor in his hate towards Deana.


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