..it doesn't say anything..we can't comment on private things unless a public statement is made by them..they may have already said their goodbyes to their mother and it may have been decided that coming home at the weekend wasn't the best thing..who knows..not us...

Thats not "the left" thats the usual crowd who smash up stuff for no apparent reason.

It's just an excuse for the morons to go out and destroy property again,most of them are kids and don't even know what she was about,people like this really effing annoy me,they are 'happy' someone is dead so lets go out and smash some windows,and destroy others peoples lives,idiots THEY are no different to her if they believe that is what she did.

agreed.

Agree with you here

id rather the left verbalized their opinions and their counter arguments properly and constructively. this behaviour is simply disgraceful , illegal and they all need to be locked up NOW

SO a few morons turn up, were confronted by police and a ruck breaks out. This represents every person who is indifferent to her death?

Generalising people as "the left" is rather stupid, there is plenty of people on here that have verbalized their opinons and counter arguements constructively.

Absolutely agree with this....

Oh no, not at all. I just think it's disgraceful that these people will ruin family businesses and wreck town centers and what not, some of which is why they supposedly despised this woman. It doesn't represent all of those with negative opinions about Thatcher, in fact it's a minority really.

Agreed, these are just people who use any excuse to cause trouble. I doubt it represents anything from either side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hpVYV6FzCA

Comment from a American cable news outlet. They've decided to tell it how it is even if they get some of the facts wrong.

The fact they get some of the 'facts' wrong ,this video is not to be taken as fact.:hugesmile:

I thought it was an amusing vid. Seems like the networks in USA are painting a picture of Thatcher that's barely recognisable to us Brits but cable news outlets are keeping it real..

Googled figures from God know's where. Always an opinion changer.

You say "her father wasn't just a grocer, he was Mayor of Grantham!" like it's akin to being a pier of the realm or something. You could be Mayor of your Town if you wanted to. It isn't something you're born into. The mayor of my local town is a postman.

Really....??? I think it says a lot, I think most people try to stay with and comfort their dying parent(s) until they pass away.

I know I rushed back to be at my mothers bedside a terrible journey I will never forget, and I was praying she didn't die before I could get there. she didn't, she died 4 hours later wiith ALL her family around her. so pardon me if I think it a little strange that NEITHER child is present at their mothers final moments.

Maybe Carol was busy with her TV work and Mark well maybe he couldn't find his way back to London. he's not too hot on directions....!!!!!

I will update this post with interesting facts about the milk snatcher feel free to look them up they are all true.
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She opposed anti-apartheid sanctions against South Africa and described Nelson Mandela as "that grubby little terrorist"

She increased VAT from 8% to 17.5%

She gained support from the National Front in the 1979 election by pandering to the fears of immigration

She was responsible for 3.6 million unemployed - the highest figure and the highest proportion of the workforce in history and three times the previous government. Massaging of the figures means that the figure was closer to 5 million

Thatcher opposed German reunification.

We still don't know...for all we know she may have told them not to make the journey, it would have alerted the media if they had rushed there, they could have had a much more private goodbye previously. When my grandfather was dying he begged my mum to leave the hospital as he didn't want her memories tainted of that. My mum initially refused and he begged her to go...in the end she popped home for a shower (after spending 48 hours by his bedside) and he died minutes after she left. Not everyone wants the same thing and as we are not privy to that information it is merely speculation and drawing on personal experience.

if you could be bothered its wikipedia....I see you selectively ignore the rest of my post, which was the main point. so as usual you end up missing the point totally. she is not the person shes being portrayed by the rather black and white media coverage

And on the subject of mining how has this panned out?
Back then oil was a lot cheaper so outsourcing probably looked like a viable option, how does it look now?
I find it hard to believe it would be cheaper to move coal from Newcastle to anywhere else on this small island seeing as there are pits dotted in Wales and Yorkshire too?
No, there had to be another reason and this reason was I believe the employment laws we have in this country, mining is a very hard, dangerous and dirty job and the wages reflected that. Another issue was the pits themselves to ensure they adhered to health and safety constraints.

Outside Britain though these rules don't apply do they? you can have as many people working for next to nothing as you like and in conditions as bad as they like, and we just import it in...Great eh.
But wait, what of all the towns, cities and rural communities affected by the closures of these pits areas where there are no other jobs available?
They go on the dole, that's what happened thousands went on the dole and created a shift in the sociological landscape of the UK.
But whose fault was it, in this blame culture we have who caused people to initially rely on the welfare state?

This is a very good point. The massaging of the unemployment figures took the form of not counting people who were too ill to work and we all know what that has lead to don't we? More long term unfit for work. She is partly responsible for creating the welfare issues we now have. How ironic.:spin:

not just short term unemployed either, these jobs are lost forever

Why is everyone blaming Mrs Thatcher for the state of the country today? Labour had several years since she left, to put things right (as they say ) but they didn't ,they continued using her policies, why?

Yes Blair
same as Thatcher.