He didn't actually say he was a wide beater did he? :joker:

You don't actually know what he meant when he said he wasn't being himself, it may have been because he doesn't actually like Lionel or that he'd rather not be nice to certain people, it doesn't mean he'd rather kick off & start beating all the women in the house about :joker:

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So was Charlotte last year.

Couldn't have put it better.

He's hardly going to get thrown out for not liking Lionel or not being nice to certain people, is he?

The faux outrage and judging of others on this thread is hilarious :joker:

Exactly!:thumbs:
There's no accounting for some people's taste.

I personally find Jim far more offensive than Charlotte though. She's pretty harmless on the whole. Jim isn't!

Oh he must have meant punching all the women in the face then...

why not? it's not like it'd be out of character for him

We are here to judge the housemates dear, not other forum members, so I will thank you not to suggest I have no morals. Thanks. :xyxwave:

Yes I suppose, just like if someone was once a drug addict they are always a drug addict then? Gosh...

Exactly. Or just one seeing he's old now. Or he could deeply offend homosexuals or people of different races. Or his male chauvinism could get the better of him. There are no end of possibilities with Jimbo.

Literally nobody suggested you have no morals, at all.

Erm read last post on page 11 dear, keep up... :xyxwave:

Yes, no doubt you are right, people cannot change can they, silly me...

It's in his autobiography..
But I just don't like him for how he is in the house the bitching with lionel was an hilarious role reversal.
The girls get gobby and lairy and the blokes stand tutting... :joker:

What is wrong with people being such condescending dicks on here tonight? You replied to somebody who made no implications at all you have no morals. Read what you replied to.

Read the whole thread before getting all excited then dear, not my fault if you jump in all guns blazing without actually reading what has been written :xyxwave:

Stop being so horrible, what's your problem?

How am I being horrible?? Calm down & have a drink... :xyxwave:

It was Jim who implied he hadn't changed when he said if he was himself he'd be kicked out. We can only speculate what behaviour could lead to that rare occurrence.

You're talking down to me like I'm simple, you are just being plain rude.

He probably meant that he is still sexist, if he were to tell the sort of jokes he tells in his stand up shows it probably wouldn't go down too well.. He obviously isn't still a violent wife beater as no doubt we would have heard about it if he was...

And calling someone a dick isn't being rude?

I have been very polite in my replies to you...

SH, the comment that suggest supporters of Jim had no morals stated the author could not support him as their morals were too important to them, hence FG's response.

I know a lot of people who have turned their lives around, having done some pretty nasty things, and a very common factor amongst them is guilt and a constant need to put themselves down despite their progress, as constantly insisting you're still a bad person prevents you from being complacent and stopping the considerable effort to work against the way you were previously programmed to be. "If I were myself, I'd get chucked out" is not Jim bragging, but Jim putting himself down, telling others he is flawed. Why would he do that otherwise? Not many people chirpily say to women, "Hi, I'm a wife-beater!"

He knows all the jokes he has cracked, and that he is viewed as a relic and he has placed himself in a very vulnerable situation. I never watched Hell's Kitchen, but if everyone's claims about his behaviour then are true, what must have changed to make him able to control himself now, if he couldn't do it then. One answer - Jim. And he'd probably be the first to say that it's a work in progress.