Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8194519)

:umm2:

Yes, researchers who have nothing better to do but try to theorise the world we live in in and its people in work you can't be bothered to read in order to make sense of it and try to be a progressive force for change

You can have all your stubborn 'I can't be bothered to comprehend this because it's stretches beyond what I've been taught so it must be crap!' attitude all you want. It's just a bunch of people on an internet forum who fail to understand basic societal concepts who whine on about not understanding it and so refute and ridicule it rather ironically

Is this how serious debates is supposed to work? :cheer2:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8191738)

Nobody chooses their sexuality. You're born gay, straight or somewhere in between and nothing can impact or change that.

People coming out later in life will not have chosen to be bi/gay, they would have just repressed that side of themselves.

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8194344)

You won't feel that your sexuality was nurtured though or be able to pin point specific things that helped develop it, of course not. Just as you won't be able to recall specific things that created your mannerisms, your interests, your style choices, your personality, etc etc. It's not something you can really look back on and correlate saying 'yeah that caused that and x caused y', it just happens without you even knowing.

When people realise they are gay, even when they're very young, that is because their sexuality has been formed in the early years of their life. I'm sorry but I really can't buy into the notion that you're sat in the womb, or even as far back as being part sperm part egg, and already you're gagging for the d or v. Or both. Babies are the the furthest thing from sexualised you can get.

Originally Posted by letmein (Post 8195592)

Please don't bring up pedophilia in a thread about homosexuality. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8195689)

Apparently everyone's got a streak of homosexuality in them, one of my co-workers said today. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8195689)

Apparently everyone's got a streak of homosexuality in them, one of my co-workers said today. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8195689)

Apparently everyone's got a streak of homosexuality in them, one of my co-workers said today. :shrug:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8195701)

I've heard that too. Possibly it's linked in with the Kinsey scale?

http://www.tuneinnotout.com/wp-conte...nsey-scale.png

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8195705)

the standard line when someone got drunk and gave someone a handjob in a bush


:joker:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8195705)

the standard line when someone got drunk and gave someone a handjob in a bush


:joker:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8195780)

I have my doubts about the truth. He hates vagina.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8195787)

could he be an angry gay?

:worry:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8195798)

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream (Post 8195895)

In my opinion (as a gay person) we are not (at least not all of us) born gay. That's not to say you have any choice in the matter or can change it. But I believe that your sexuality is determined, like most other aspects of our personality, by our upbringing, memories, experiences, environment etc.

I think this happens very early on as I cannot remember a time I ever had an interest in girls, but I don't think there is a 'gay gene'. I'm happy to be proven wrong, though!

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream (Post 8195895)

In my opinion (as a gay person) we are not (at least not all of us) born gay. That's not to say you have any choice in the matter or can change it. But I believe that your sexuality is determined, like most other aspects of our personality, by our upbringing, memories, experiences, environment etc.

I think this happens very early on as I cannot remember a time I ever had an interest in girls, but I don't think there is a 'gay gene'. I'm happy to be proven wrong, though!

Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow (Post 8195599)

Why can it only be answered by gay people? What about scientists who research it? The answer is yes in your opinion.

What if it's neither in the womb or genetics? What if it develops through early childhood? There's no scientific proof of a right answer at this stage.



Yes, but how is this to do with sexuality?

Originally Posted by letmein (Post 8196036)

Sexuality is hardwired. There are health benefits to sex. In order for the human race to survive, we need to reproduce. The reason why we masturbate is to let off steam as to not kill one another. Sex also socializes species. Children are also sexual beings. Boys have erections in the womb. Children explore their private parts. Anyone who's studied Freud understands this. Homosexuality takes place in the animal kingdom as well. These are not taught traits. They're biological. It's coded.

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream (Post 8196069)

Surely Freud supported the nurture side of the debate, believing that children initially want to copulate with their mothers before environmental factors caused them to direct their libido elsewhere?