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If there's no health and safety concerns then I see no issue with either balloon. Whether or not it's childish doesn't matter one bit, it's their right to protest how they see fit as long as no one gets hurt.
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Wouldn't be opposed to a whole nursery full of random baby politicians tbh. Childish, yes of course. As is the American Idiot thing. But..its peaceful.
What I really have found very interesting about this whole thing is the reaction of a few people who are usually all super 'freedom of speech!' and such. All of a sudden, freedom of speech/expression is NOT whats wanted, what is being called for are bans on songs being sold/streamed, bans on ideas such as this (did I mention childish?! :laugh: ) baloon...apparently marching is pointless as it changes nothing..when only weeks back there were calls for protest marches because someone who had broken the law got locked up...and so on. Yesterday it was only one guy I saw kicking off badly about this. Now there are a few of them, they are getting very irrate at the sheer gall of anyone to disagree with them, oddly enough. I do tend to find its usually left wing people wanting to control how others speak/think, but because Trump is involved..suddenly banning stuff is the best plan of action from those who are usually opposed to the nanny state stuff. All very odd. None of the above is about people on here, though a similar reaction seems to be going on here too I guess. |
Peaceful protests are fine,I just find the balloon thing quite embarrassing for the country,and what it conveys to other countries about us,plus at the end of the day will it change anything ? it certainly wont change Trump he will probably just have more distain for us, so who is it for really ? but it's not the blimp that has annoyed some people ,but the fact the mayor of London has sanctioned it,he is supposed to be a figure worthy of respect isn't he? I am sure he would not have sanctioned one of Mohammed floating about as a fun figure. Some people don't like Trump that is fair enough,but are we going to waste money on loads of these things everytime we don't like someone, and will we be allowed?
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If the childish Ttump is a laughing stock so are his haters who it seems would rather take the puerile position of ‘if you can’t beat em, join em’. Some achiement. :rolleyes: |
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Mayor Khan is a big kid himself for allowing this stupid thing to fly above Parliament.
He needs to grow up and stop criticising and sniping at Trump. It's not Trump that's looking bad, it's Khan. He's an embarrassment. No other country in the world would allow this. Not even North Korea. Khan needs to work on stopping gun crime, the idiot he is. He infuriates me. :mad: I just hope someone in the crowd fires a dart at the ballon and it slowly goes down. Waste of money. It just goes to show how low these idiots who hate Trump will go. To actually spend £18,000 on that monstrosity. How about giving that money to charity to help the people they say Trump's policies affect, like refugees. Oh no, they'd rather spend EIGHTEEN GRAND on that. |
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Let’s see how ‘peaceful’ it will actually be. The whole thing will give a lot of groups a good excuse to cause mayhem - maybe worse. I know I wom’t Be going anywhere near it.
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...Sadiq Khan couldn’t really do right for doing wrong, whatever he did would have been criticised...was he to say, no you can’t do that I absolutely forbid it...and take away a nation’s right to peacefully protest, to against the values of our democracies...or say yes, if it passes health and safety etc and is deemed ok, then go ahead...and they get ‘threatened’ with having a mocking balloon of himself as well because he should have removed the right to peaceful protest and should have banned..:laugh:...poor guy, who would be Mayor with choices like that...damned if you do, damned if you don’t...
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...I think the reasons for the feelings against Trump as opposed to other leaders as well is that his country’s ethos is democracy ...while he himself has values that are more akin to dictatorship...nothing that other US presidents have displayed before...
....it’s funny that he might get all out of place and offended by a balloon image of himself...but he’s fine to encourage prejudice against Mexican people... |
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that will be news to the American political system, what nonsense ."it’s funny that he might get all out of place and offended by a balloon image of himself" There is no evidence that he will see it or be bothered by it, unless you have some? |
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I don't much care either way to be honest, protest or no protest, it won't affect me. I am just findng the reaction of some really amusing. Pointing out to this guy who only a few weeks back was posting about the Tommy Robinson protest and how everyone should go to it..and also how everyone should sign the petition (nether of which would actually have any affect, same as this really) about how he and he alone should not be prosecuted for breaking the law, for reasons unknown...led to me being called a 'far left prick' :laugh: I would say I am pretty centre these days, used to be more left wing (though never far left)...but haven't been for a while now. The 'prick' part may well be true, he is entitled to his opinion after all :D I kind of hope Khan does sanction the baby Khan blimp also, if it actually happens. THough if he does, then it will be 'oh he hadno choice so he had to' and such. Again, something he cannot really win on. Finally, I am certainly no fan of Khan, he behaves likea child fairly regularly and I don't think he is right for the job at all. However, I accept that he was voted in and people do want him. Kind of similar to Trump, though Khan actually got the most votes. |
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Just throwing ideas around. |
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Unless you're saying that democracy is flawed. ...But surely not. Surely democracy isn't right for Brexit, and Trump, and the "no" Scottish indy result, and yet "for some reason" incorrect when a |
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Khan is an elected mayor. He wasn't just handpicked by a random panel or whatever, so I don't get how him being mayor can be positive discrimination? Maybe I am just not understanding it all properly, can you explain it to me brillo please? Might be a bit too early for me yet :laugh:
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