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Vanessa 10-05-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11163373)
Yeah Fantastic Beasts dropped Depp from the latest movie . Yet Heard still has the Aquaman sequel on her IMDB in the pipeline :bored: unless she'll get recast ,but I doubt it .

It's obvious Depp's career will take a harder blow than hers , despite people saying neither of them will come out of this well.

He's going to be working on a movie in France.
True, but he's going to be fine.

GoldHeart 10-05-2022 02:53 PM

Yeah if people are 'following ' celebs on social media ,that usually means they support them or have an interest in their life & work .

Vanessa 10-05-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11163376)
Yeah if people are 'following ' celebs on social media ,that usually means they support them or have an interest in their life & work .

Did you see Lady Victoria message about Amber?
I've always known what she's saying. My instincts have never let me down.

GoldHeart 10-05-2022 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11163377)
Did you see Lady Victoria message about Amber?
I've always known what she's saying. My instincts have never let me down.

Yeah I've just clicked on the tweet, I'm not even surprised.
I always knew she was violent & abusive to her ex .

Vanessa 10-05-2022 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11163379)
Yeah I've just clicked on the tweet, I'm not even surprised.
I always knew she was violent & abusive to her ex .

They should get her to testify or give a statement.
Amber is also being investigated for perjury in Australia. Ongoing.

Vanessa 10-05-2022 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11163379)
Yeah I've just clicked on the tweet, I'm not even surprised.
I always knew she was violent & abusive to her ex .

In Johnny and Amber honeymoon pictures, he's the one who appears to have injuries.
Also Elon Musk had a bruise on his face during the time they dated. :suspect:

AnnieK 10-05-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11163377)
Did you see Lady Victoria message about Amber?
I've always known what she's saying. My instincts have never let me down.

Lady Victoria also defended Ghislaine Maxwell though and said she was being treated as a "scapegoat" so her judgement is a little questionable to be honest.

Not saying its not true but she wouldn't be the best person to attest to anything in court.

Vanessa 10-05-2022 03:24 PM

https://twitter.com/apenation1812/st...146438144?s=19
Amber sister testimony. It appears she lied about what happened.

Vanessa 10-05-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11163387)
Lady Victoria also defended Ghislaine Maxwell though and said she was being treated as a "scapegoat" so her judgement is a little questionable to be honest.

Not saying its not true but she wouldn't be the best person to attest to anything in court.

But Amber was arrested for domestic violence to her ex wife.

AnnieK 10-05-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11163390)
But Amber was arrested for domestic violence to her ex wife.

Her ex-wife has said that it was an incident that was blown out of proportion and she wasn't charged :shrug: I don't know much about it, haven't been following the case just pick up bits here and there so there may be things I don't know about. All I am saying is that Lady Victoria is obviously not the best judge of character if she can defend Ghislaine Maxwell

user104658 10-05-2022 03:34 PM

What do people not understand about this?

It does not matter who Amber Heard is, what’s she’s like or what she’s done. The question is “Did Johnny Depp ever physically abuse her”. That’s it. That’s the only question. If the answer is any variation of “Yes he hit her but…” then that’s a yes, even if she’s literally the devil. It’s a civil case, launched by Depp, saying that allegations of physical violence are untrue. There’s both audio and text message evidence of him apologising for getting violent and out of control whilst drunk/high. The rest is all entirely irrelevant.

Truth is I think there are plenty of Depp supporters who deep down just think “Well maybe he did, but she had it coming” but aren’t willing to say that out loud.

Vanessa 10-05-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11163396)
What do people not understand about this?

It does not matter who Amber Heard is, what’s she’s like or what she’s done. The question is “Did Johnny Depp ever physically abuse her”. That’s it. That’s the only question. If the answer is any variation of “Yes he hit her but…” then that’s a yes, even if she’s literally the devil. It’s a civil case, launched by Depp, saying that allegations of physical violence are untrue. There’s both audio and text message evidence of him apologising for getting violent and out of control whilst drunk/high. The rest is all entirely irrelevant.

Truth is I think there are plenty of Depp supporters who deep down just think “Well maybe he did, but she had it coming” but aren’t willing to say that out loud.

There's no evidence of Johnny ever hitting Amber.
While there is plenty of evidence that Amber hit Johnny.
That is my opinion.
But everyone is entitled to think what they want.

Vanessa 10-05-2022 03:46 PM

I'm just waiting for the cross examination.
Then we will see who is lying.

Vanessa 10-05-2022 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11163393)
Her ex-wife has said that it was an incident that was blown out of proportion and she wasn't charged :shrug: I don't know much about it, haven't been following the case just pick up bits here and there so there may be things I don't know about. All I am saying is that Lady Victoria is obviously not the best judge of character if she can defend Ghislaine Maxwell

But she could be telling the truth.
I don't believe she's lying here.

user104658 10-05-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11163402)
There's no evidence of Johnny ever hitting Amber.
While there is plenty of evidence that Amber hit Johnny.
That is my opinion.
But everyone is entitled to think what they want.


There are literally text messages between them where she mentions him getting violent and he’s apologising and saying it won’t happen again. I think you’re extremely selective on what you consider to be “good enough proof”… but it appears you’re not alone and this exact narrative is playing out across social media. A case of a messy, drug-fuelled relationship rewritten as a saint-like almost 50 year old man who got involved with an evil woman in her early 20’s. The poor wee soul.

GoldHeart 10-05-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11163416)
There are literally text messages between them where she mentions him getting violent and he’s apologising and saying it won’t happen again. I think you’re extremely selective on what you consider to be “good enough proof”… but it appears you’re not alone and this exact narrative is playing out across social media. A case of a messy, drug-fuelled relationship rewritten as a saint-like almost 50 year old man who got involved with an evil woman in her early 20’s. The poor wee soul.

Depp opened up this trial himself, he wanted this to go to court . It just doesn't make any sense why he'd do that if he's 'lying' about everything.

And as i keep saying guilty or innocent , the damage is already done and his reputation will be affected no matter what you think.

user104658 10-05-2022 04:34 PM

Anyone following the Amber and Johnny trial?
 
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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11163417)
Depp opened up this trial himself, he wanted this to go to court . It just doesn't make any sense why he'd do that if he's 'lying' about everything.

And as i keep saying guilty or innocent , the damage is already done and his reputation will be affected no matter what you think.


He opened up this case because the case he opened against The Sun went nowhere as it was found, in court, that there was sufficient evidence for the things they had said about them and thus it was not libel. That’s the only reason he decided to take Herd herself to court. Petty revenge. There’s text messages of him saying as much, also… again I’m sure “not good enough” evidence. They settled the rest of it years ago.

He knows his reputation is damaged so he’s taken it to court to destroy hers too in revenge and to play up to the fan base that he still has. That’s worked better than he could have imagined and he’s drawn in a new fan base alongside (MRA's, meme bros, other assorted incels who are happy to watch a witch trial). They’re the ones pushing all of the social media misinformation, e.g. the supposed “talented mr ripley” quotes which I assume we can now all agree was entirely false?

You’ve hit the nail on the head really - WHY would he start this media circus knowing that it could only do more damage to his reputation. What’s your answer to that question? It’s certainly not for the money, he has more than she’ll ever have. There’s only one viable answer. He started this because he’s (still) angry and he wants to punish her. He’s said so in his own words. This is the mindset of a controlling abuser. Anyone with any real objectivity can understand that.

Liam- 10-05-2022 04:39 PM

Yes, because you’re so objective yourself, the person who said they made their mind up as soon as he realised their ages when they got together

GoldHeart 10-05-2022 04:44 PM

I wonder if the age gap would be brought up and blamed if Madonna, and her toy boy was in this exact same type of toxic relationship that went to court.

Liam- 10-05-2022 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11163427)
I wonder if the age gap would be brought up and blamed if Madonna, and her toy boy was in this exact same type of toxic relationship that went to court.

Obviously not, because older women are empowered when they choose to date younger men, older men are always just perverts when they get with younger women, it would be called sexist to make it a point of contention

Vanessa 10-05-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11163416)
There are literally text messages between them where she mentions him getting violent and he’s apologising and saying it won’t happen again. I think you’re extremely selective on what you consider to be “good enough proof”… but it appears you’re not alone and this exact narrative is playing out across social media. A case of a messy, drug-fuelled relationship rewritten as a saint-like almost 50 year old man who got involved with an evil woman in her early 20’s. The poor wee soul.

There's no evidence that he hit her.

Vanessa 10-05-2022 04:54 PM

There's plenty of evidence that shows she was abusive.
Clips where she says she can't promise she won't get violent again.
But of course that's OK, because she's a woman

Vanessa 10-05-2022 05:00 PM

Some of her fans are saying we should support her even if it comes out that she's lying :umm2:

Vanessa 10-05-2022 05:17 PM

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This is from someone who knew Amber

GoldHeart 10-05-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11163435)
Some of her fans are saying we should support her even if it comes out that she's lying :umm2:

That says it all really :facepalm:


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