I think it was great viewing. I love it when we actually get to watch a game plan and loads of manipulation going on in front of our very own eyes.

She was one of those HMs I hated and wanted out, but I knew that she was going to be a big loss.

Its all Suzies falt.:mad:

lol. Yea, its true. In Narinder's (BB2) book, Richard was interviewed and said that everyone was too manipulated to really see what was going on with Grace and she was never going to be up.

So when Suzie came in, she knew th way Grace worked and the fact that the public hated Grace and so put her up!

That was also a great strategical move from Suzie.

Oh Yes, and BB7 had the biggest bore ever in the BB History....Susie !
There was none in BB5, I just wanted to notice haha

Oh please dont diss the Big Brothers tea lady.:bigsmile:

I make no excuses BB5 was the best and I have watched them all.BB6 was good too as was 7 and 3.I found BB7 had a lot of fake, media savvy HM,s and lets face it some who needed therapy rather TV time.How Shabaz got through the sanity tests is a mystery bigger than the Bermuda triangle.The same goes for the weird ,clearly troubled Nikki, who had ,had a dodgy lifestyle before BB.Nikki was often unkind and nasty in BB and took part in Shabaz,s bullying but this was overlooked.What about Sam who was clearly troubled also.Grace was snooty and nasty, but we wear rose colored glasses to look at these people.Thats why they are such a let down when we see them again e.g Jade in CBB.She was always obnoxious, people had believed the spin and forgotten how she is really is.Reading Narinders book really puts things in perspective and BB takes away anonymity with out the perks of real fame.You only have to see the demise of Britney Spears anyway to know it does not bring happiness.

I think everybody had their moment of nastiness, and who frigging cares about their trouble past, the main thing is they provided high value of entertaininment, look at Nadia didn't she have a troubled lifestyle, so how did you miss that one out, and didn't others indirectly bully Ahmed. What does media Savvy has to do with the entertainment in Big Brother.

For me, it's BB7, but it's only swayed by the fact that it's the only one of the three series in the poll that I have seen in its entirety.

If BB7 is the worst, than shouldn't BB5 out score BB7, it is only leading by one vote.

I never knew you was a fan of Big Brother 7.

It seems like all you BB7 fans (and by that I mean the two of you) are just concerned about a popularity contest, you're all ratings and votes, you're the BB equivalent of the George Bush administration. :tongue:

We BB5 fans want quality over popularity, we're not saying BB5 is more popular, that isn't important to us, we're more bothered about the entertainment value, the selection of housemates, quality of tasks and twists. We don't have to use a bunch of excuses like "Oh BB7 was up against the World Cup..blah blah blah".

Wooooo thanks for that, you said the exact words of what I was thinking ! :wink::thumbs:

Yeh and a national poll says BB7 is much more entertaining than BB5. What we are saying that even though it had worl cup and love Ireland, it still succeeded with the ratings.

No, that half crzed lonny from Watford is what made BB7 the best ever series IMO.

Nikki made BB7 so it confirms what we think....it's not the best !
You think only one person made the show but don't forget that in BB5, allt he housemates made the show, no one was boring like Susie, Sam, George or Bonnie.
They all bring something, they all made BB5 to the beginning to the end, and they all did it together.
BB7 was made only by Nikki and Richard.

BB7 had many good characters, it also had Glyn, Sezer, Grace, Mikey, Leah, Richard, Jayne.

But the whole cast didn't make the series as the 5th bunch of housemates did, it's obvious. They had their own entertainment factor, together, they were perfect.

Ok, I have watched Victor in the Diary room, and I must admit that yes he was very good, his one-liners in rapping were great. I watched this one.http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Dl6DbR72I

But I still think Nikki is the best performer in Diary, she just showed many side to her in the DR.

Shell and Stuart!:sleep:

What you have to remember is BB7 had so many more HMs than BB5, so not all of them are going to work.

It's not Susie's fault at all. The crowd were chanting "Get Grace out", and obviously it would make sense for Susie to do what they want if she wanted to get far in the show, and she was probably scared not to nominate Grace because of how horrible the baying mob can be at times.

So it was the crowd's fault, not Susie's. It was also the producer's fault, for they should've realised that whoever went in would obviously do what the public wanted instead of doing their own thing, which would've been less predictable and better viewing.

I do agree that Grace made interesting viewing though, as much as I disliked her. She did have that whole house wrapped around her little finger before the producers spoilt it with one of their many silly twists that year.

You do realise Grace was one of the biggest loss of BB7, although I had no choice to vote her out, as she was up against my fave Nikki, if she was up against say Pete than I would of definately voted Pete out.

I agree with you there, just added another bit to my last post saying so. :)

It was a shame, but because of the crowds chanting, Grace was evicted. The producers broke their own rules about contact with the outside world (ironic how they chucked Dawn out when they violated this rule much worse than she did) by allowing the crowds to chant like that, and they continued to break that rule in BB8 by allowing them to chant again and putting in new HMs who had seen everything.

What a bad poor excuse by the supporter of BB5, wasn't BB5 much recent series than BB3 than how did BB3 do better than BB5 in the poll.

If she stayed, than the ratings would of done even more better.