I think the point Jesus made should be addressed a little more.

Can we as a forum be assured that if ever a dispute arises between a 'V.I.P' and a 'regular member' that there will be no vested interest in trying to keep the paying members sated at the expense of the rest?


Like I said if you decide to implement the system I won't lost any sleep over it I am just one of many and I will still use the forum but I will voice concerns that funnily enough a fair few other members seem to share.

I don't see how that would happen. Everyone knows the rules. If you break them continuously then you get banned. People get warnings before a ban is put in place. If you're stupid enough to ignore the warnings then it's your own doing.

To be clear, I don't think it's plausible that any dispute involving a vip vs non-paying would be decided by the benjamins.

I voted yes, it will be like habbo hotel all over again :love:

Do I really wish to read 19 pages of this....

Somebody give me a short brief pls xo

Vote on the Poll.

Do you wish to pay a monthly fee of perhaps 2.00, to be a Premium member and have some (at the moment undefined) extras, perhaps a bigger Avatar, a coloured forum name or similar.

It would create an 'us and them' atmosphere I think, just look at how post count is used as a gauge of how important a member you are? If you paid too that would be magnified I think.

vip?

what a horrible idea

There was google advertising on the forum that I guess helped a little towards costs, that's not been active for quite a while now and that's the only monetary source that's been on the forum, you don't have to believe it but it's true.


Also regarding the issues with bannings/warning etc, members that made a donation wouldn't be treated any differently from someone that hadn't, if someone breaks a forum rule then they get dealt with.. not sure why anyone would think paying a a few pence donation would change that, donations are optional, no one forces people to pay them.

Infractions are private. If you see a paid up member break the rules nobody will be any the wiser if they have been punished or not unless they are outright banned or they get taken over the limit. It would be in the interest of the forum to do what they can to make sure they can keep people that pay on board unless they have no choice.

And I've gotten away with breaking the rules on occasion. I called someone a clown a few months back on a thread and never even got a warning never mind a ban. I would like to think that the reason was nobody saw it but it was a pretty active thread. I've said less than that to some of the more 'popular' members of the forum and being infracted within mere minutes in the past.

And don't you dare infract me for admitting I called someone a clown Josy I'm warning you! :fist:

*infracts Kyle*

Nah that probably went un noticed tbh, we don't see everything all the time.

I'm gonna bow out of this debate now but it's been fun I've enjoyed it.

Good to see it still open after 19 pages too with an almost 50/50 split on the poll aswell.

Oh and Hi Sheriff. :xyxwave:

It's just people trying to make up stuff like if you donate you don't get banned they are only saying that so they want to try and stop it to be added

It's just stupid

What a strange interpretation of people's posts. :huh:

Off to the 'TOWER' with you :devil:

But this isn't true at all...

Agree totally

not to bring in names but has anybody said anything to Jay or Who is She who joined this week

Unless you're petty I don't see this occuring at all...

On what other forum does divides occur from donators getting a few perks, it's just ridiculous to even assume so. I've said again and again countless forums have these donator options and in no way it brings up any type of divide, so for some to suggest this is such a big reach.

Not at all, they've fit in straight away. The grasping at straws has begun.

I've not read through the whole thread so don't know what else has been suggested, but my view is that it's fine so long as the benefits of being a "VIP" aren't excessive. A separate private forum could potentially cause divisions and I think that since the main forum can already be a little slow during off season, to give people the opportunity to post even less on the main forum would not be good. However, basic benefits such as a name tag, coloured name, award etc is fine. I fail to understand how that could cause any kind of divisions. If people get worked up over others having a coloured name then that's really silly.

Though I would suggest that we use a different name. Maybe it's just me but I find "VIP" to be really cringey. :laugh:

The fact that the site is actively for sale probably acts as a motivating factor to keep it going.

I also wasn't insinuating that you would treat people differently because they were paying members, as I clarified in a later post. My point was, that if you have some of the younger members that pay, but then end up with 6 month bans, then you could have parents on your case and all sorts.

Oh I know, that second part of my post wasn't aimed at you specifically but answering all that had posted those concerns.

Maybe there would be some kind of terms wrote up that would have to be agreed to but like mentioned a few times in the thread everyone is just posting opinions and suggestions atm and nothing is set in stone about a premium feature going ahead.

I don't even want this anymore, tibb can stay dusty, slow and in decline

http://i.minus.com/i4B4pLhJYtOaj.gif

No one is saying divisions will be created because of a few perks... don't think most people could care any less about coloured names or whatever.

But being titled a 'VIP' and getting a whole 'Private VIP Section' for yourselves is literally dividing the forum. You can't get any more literal in terms of dividing the forum up.

Does Mark even need donators, is it something he wants to implement?

Edit - Nevermind. My question was answered. :laugh:

Idk why you're flogging that dead horse then because it has been clearly stated there will be no private section nor will it be called VIP

This, it was just an idea and we're getting accused of making drama whilst they're bringing it up again.

Can you imagine having to get past 2 big bouncers each day just to post some half-assed comment about the latest meat pie deal at AsdaWalmart HD?

NO

Well yes, plenty of us have talked to them both.

I don't know why you said they're Hayden is agreeing with the donate thing

Seriously though,there are loads of free message boards out there that have all the facilties people want + more,all they have on them is ads which are not intrusive,Couldn't TIBB be swapped over to one of them,most of the things people want like coloured names etc are all there ready there to use,just a suggestion.

oops when I was talking about Jay and Who is she I was saying it as a positive meaning that lots of people have been talking to them, no point editing now since it's been quoted 2 times

I think he means has anyone said anything insulting based on them having low post counts as people seem to be suggesting

Are you actually serious Tom, you kept bringing i up constantly and then start playing the victim when I gave an opposing view to yours. Grow up seriously.

And Reece, I'm not 'flogging a dead horse' at all, private sections kept being brought up and everytime someone said no people just started accusing them of being 'boring' or persisting by saying it wouldn't cause division, even though it clearly would.

The mods and admin both said resounding no's to the private section so that should not be debated anymore because it's utter pointlessness.

Exactly. I'm hugely in favour of bringing donations on to the site, I just don't want people being classed as more 'important' than other people just because they pay £1 extra than someone else. Perks are fine, don't see why we can't have them if we donate. But VIP sections and being called 'VIPs' are a big no no IMO.

Exactly, but even after they said that people still came with their 'ideas' of all these exclusive areas for VIPs only.

Well it's not going to happen so there's no point for either side to go on about it and since all the "elitism" theories are stemming from that then that's pointless to discuss further also.

The fact that there's drama/division at just the discussion of a separate section shows that a separate section would've caused drama. So this thread has already proven it IMO.