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MB. 24-10-2016 12:07 PM

"Irregardless"

Raph 24-10-2016 12:55 PM

My last post, “12 Mistakes Nearly Everyone Who Writes about Grammar Mistakes Makes,” drew a lot of comments, some supportive and some critical. But no point drew as much ire as my claim that irregardless is a word. Some stated flatly, “Irregardless is not a word.” One ignorantly demanded, “Show me a dictionary that actually contains that word.” (I could show him several.) Still others argued that it was a double negative, that it was logically and morphologically ill-formed and thus had no meaning. One commenter said that “with the negating preface [prefix] ‘ir-‘ and the negating suffix ‘-less’, it is a double negative” and that “it is not a synonym with ‘regardless’.” Another was even cleverer, saying, “The prefix ir-, meaning not, changes the meaning of the word regardless, so not only is it not a standard word, but it’s also misused in nearly all cases.” But these arguments still miss the point: irregardless is indeed a word, and it means the same thing as regardless.

In my last post I argued that there’s a clear difference between a word like irregardless and a nonword like flirgle. By any objective criterion, irregardless is a word. It has an established form and meaning, it’s used in speech and occasionally in writing, and it’s even found in reputable dictionaries, including Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary and The Oxford English Dictionary (though it is, quite appropriately, labeled nonstandard). We can identify its part of speech (it’s an adverb) and describe how it’s used. By contrast, though, consider flirgle. You don’t know what its part of speech is or how to use it, and if I were to use it in a sentence, you wouldn’t know what it meant. This is because it’s just something I made up by stringing some sounds together. But when someone uses irregardless, you know exactly what it means, even if you want to pretend otherwise.

This is because words get their wordhood not from etymology or logic or some cultural institution granting them official status, but by convention. It doesn’t matter that nice originally meant “ignorant” or that contact was originally only a noun or that television is formed from a blend of Greek and Latin roots; what matters is how people use these words now. This makes some people uncomfortable because it sounds like anarchy, but it’s more like the ultimate democracy or free market. We all want to understand one another and be understood, so it’s in our mutual interest to communicate in ways that are understandable. Language is a self-regulating system guided by the invisible hand of its users’ desire to communicate—not that this stops people from feeling the need for overt regulation.

One commenter, the same who said, “Irregardless is not a word,” noted rather aptly, “There is absolutely no value to ‘irregardless’ except to recognize people who didn’t study.” Exactly. There is nothing wrong with its ability to communicate; it’s only the word’s metacommunication—that is, what it communicates about its user—that is problematic. To put it a different way, the problem with irregardless is entirely social: If you use it, you’ll be thought of as uneducated, even though everyone can understand you just fine.

One friend of mine said, “Accepting it as a word is the first part of the slippery slope.” This seems like a valid fear, but I believe it is misplaced. First of all, we need to be clear about what it means to accept irregardless as a word. I accept that it’s a word, but this does not mean that I find the word acceptable. I can accept that people do all kinds of things that I don’t like. But the real problem isn’t what we mean by accept; it’s what we mean by word. When people say that something isn’t a word, they aren’t really making a testable claim about the objective linguistic status of the word; they’re making a sociolinguistic evaluation of the word. They may say that it’s not a word, but they really mean that it’s a word that’s not allowed in Standard English. This is because we think of Standard English as the only legitimate form of English. We think that the standard has words and grammar, while nonstandard dialects have nonwords and broken grammar, or no grammar at all. Yes, it’s important to recognize and teach the difference between Standard English and nonstandard forms, but it’s also important to be clear about the difference between facts about the language and our feelings about the language.

But the irregardless-haters can also take heart: The word has been around for at least a century now, and although many other new words have been coined and become part of Standard English in that time, irregardless shows no signs of moving towards acceptability. Most people who write for publication are well aware of the stigma attached to it, and even if they aren’t, few copyeditors are willing to let it into print. It’s telling that of the Oxford English Dictionary‘s eight citations of the word, two merely cite the word in other dictionaries, three more are mentions or citations in linguistics or literary journals, and one more appears to be using the word ironically. We talk about the word irregardless—mostly just to complain about it—far more than we actually use it.

So yes, irregardless is a word, even though it’s nonstandard. You don’t have to like it, and you certainly don’t have to use it, but you also don’t have to worry about it becoming acceptable anytime soon.

:) xoxo

Macie Lightfoot 24-10-2016 02:13 PM

Irregardless of that essay, Shelby is WINNING

Headie 24-10-2016 03:52 PM

Irregardless, this season is tragic, with or without Americas vote

Raph 24-10-2016 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 9026307)
Irregardless of that essay, Shelby is WINNING

I thought you would like her she's a clueless recruit xxx

Raph 24-10-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 9026473)
Irregardless, this season is tragic, with or without Americas vote

Hayden on the left with bae
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Ross. 24-10-2016 04:50 PM

Y'all are so messy

Raph 24-10-2016 05:07 PM

And the superfans unite and Neeley is third nom :hehe:

Raph 24-10-2016 05:07 PM

:D :D :D So happy!

Headie 24-10-2016 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raph (Post 9026647)

This doesn't even make any sense

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Headie 24-10-2016 05:29 PM

One of the plastics/Scott are 100% going this week due to the way the numbers currently are, so I'm happy. Plus it means Neeley can't be voted for America's vote next week :clap1: Lol watch America keep alternating their votes between the two black girls every week, won't be surprised at all

LukeB 24-10-2016 05:36 PM

If the nominees stay the same america decides.

6 people are voting.. 3 ballsmashers and 3 babies. the babies don't have the numbers

LukeB 24-10-2016 05:39 PM

10:08 AM Plastics are jumpimg around in the storage room. Jason is upset
10:10 AM Jason continues very upset in LBR. Can't understand why America didn't put up Shelby.
10:11 AM Jason says Shelby is a golddigger who only wants to date attractive men. Says he doesn't get it.
10:10 AM Jason asking why America likes Shelby. Calls Shelby an 'anorexic gold digger'. Calls her a hooker over last night's dating covo.(To Justin and Danielle)


:joker: looks like Jason is bitter. not surprised.. misfits throw tantrums when nothing goes their way.

Headie 24-10-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9026769)
If the nominees stay the same america decides.

6 people are voting.. 3 ballsmashers and 3 babies. the babies don't have the numbers

America will vote Scott out, only reason he wasn't America's nom this week is because Kryssie already nommed hi-

Lol who am I kidding Neeley is a black girl of course they'll vote her out :laugh:

Headie 24-10-2016 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9026779)
misfits throw tantrums when nothing goes their way.

Weren't Alex stans giving praise to her for saying "This is for Monte" when casting her vote to evict? :joker:

LukeB 24-10-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 9026948)
Weren't Alex stans giving praise to her for saying "This is for Monte" when casting her vote to evict? :joker:

But that's not throwing a tantrum though:laugh:

Raph 24-10-2016 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 9026729)

Danielle just followed jade's bullying by laughing at whatever jade said, obviously

Raph 24-10-2016 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9026997)
But that's not throwing a tantrum though:laugh:

This, alex has not said anything petty and I am a Jason fan but the LNJ have been awful

reece(: 24-10-2016 07:42 PM

Jason will come thru in the end.

Headie 24-10-2016 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raph (Post 9027122)
Danielle just followed jade's bullying by laughing at whatever jade said, obviously

Screaming @ the reach :joker:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9026997)
But that's not throwing a tantrum though:laugh:

But it's petty as hell, which is the same principle as throwing a tantrum :laugh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raph (Post 9027125)
This, alex has not said anything petty and I am a Jason fan but the LNJ have been awful

Alol k

Headie 24-10-2016 07:44 PM

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Macie Lightfoot 24-10-2016 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raph (Post 9027125)
This, alex has not said anything petty and I am a Jason fan but the LNJ have been awful

and Jason's been arguably the most awful one of them lmfao. But for whatever reason he gets a pass because "lol Jason is so funny!!!!! he's a superfan even though his form of gameplay is sitting on the couch and smoking cigarettes and never stepping foot in the HOH room!!!!!! remember that time he snatched Audrey's wig by talking about pulling her pants down????"

Macie Lightfoot 24-10-2016 09:44 PM



Production telling Shelby to emulate Rachel Reilly :rolleyes: it's really a shame that this show doesn't have any faith in its own casting that they just go for repeat archetypes.

Headie 24-10-2016 11:09 PM

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JerseyWins 25-10-2016 05:18 AM

It would be nice if Neeley somehow went instead of Scott but I don't see it unless Alex's fanbase is big enough? And also willing to spare Scott as a number on the plastics' side because aside from that reason... there's probably not many that like Scott. :joker: (which I think he's fine... I don't love him but he's better than I expected / saw at first)

Although I also have little to no clue what's going on at this point but the storyline seems to be pretty clear & self-explanatory. Just Team A vs. Team B still. Which can still be great (BB6) but I don't think there's been that much action, hostility, etc. between the sides lately? Aside from petty ranting... But I could be wrong. Whenever I do put on the feeds they don't seem as good as they were earlier in the season that's for sure.

Headie 25-10-2016 11:28 AM

Needy is going home for no reason whatsoever god I hate this show

Raph 25-10-2016 06:13 PM

Scott to stay to help bring our Alex to final 2 :clap1: the plastics are the smart side of the house!

LukeB 25-10-2016 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 9027888)
It would be nice if Neeley somehow went instead of Scott but I don't see it unless Alex's fanbase is big enough? And also willing to spare Scott as a number on the plastics' side because aside from that reason... there's probably not many that like Scott. :joker: (which I think he's fine... I don't love him but he's better than I expected / saw at first)

Although I also have little to no clue what's going on at this point but the storyline seems to be pretty clear & self-explanatory. Just Team A vs. Team B still. Which can still be great (BB6) but I don't think there's been that much action, hostility, etc. between the sides lately? Aside from petty ranting... But I could be wrong. Whenever I do put on the feeds they don't seem as good as they were earlier in the season that's for sure.

I don't mind who goes really out of the lot but Neeley would be ideal and Kryssie or Danielle can go next week. I think Kryssie will most likely be america's nominee because everyone is sick of her. Bitter misfits fans on twitter/tumblr can't cry racism because they can't take their favourites going :( what would they do

Raph 25-10-2016 07:13 PM

Misfits fans are so bitter, it's not like I said it was a socioeconomic thing that Cornbread and Monte were nominated. Neeley was the best person to go up this week as she is best friends with Kryssie who is targeting America's fav Alex Willett!

reece(: 25-10-2016 07:14 PM

:facepalm:

Raph 25-10-2016 07:31 PM

Also personally I wanted to target Neeley as she has said multiple times that she 'wants to play an honest game' and to me that's a HUGE negative. No time for such compassion and morals on the best psychological game in the world

DrunkerThanMoses 25-10-2016 08:38 PM

Polls seem to indicate nealey is getting America's eviction vote. So nice to see

LukeB 25-10-2016 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses (Post 9029211)
Polls seem to indicate nealey is getting America's eviction vote. So nice to see

twitter "racism :bawling: "

Headie 25-10-2016 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 9028976)
:facepalm:

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Raph 25-10-2016 09:22 PM

Alex willing to cut her sister for Scott - that right there is a true super fan :lovedup:

Mind you I like Morgan but Alex cutting her would be dope as

#TeamAlex

Raph 25-10-2016 09:30 PM

My new BBUSA top 10 :)

1. Dan Gheesling BB10
2. Paulie Calafiore BB18
3. Alex Willett BBOTT
4. Angie Swindell BB10
5. Bridgette Dunning BB18
6. Jun Song BB4
7. James Rhine BB6
8. Cody Calafiore BB16
9. Kaysar BB6
10. Memphis Garrett BB10

Macie Lightfoot 25-10-2016 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raph (Post 9029025)
No time for such compassion and morals on the best psychological game in the world

lmfao I cannot be the only person who finds this hilarious, right?

Headie 25-10-2016 11:03 PM

Evicting Scott will actually bring the plastics closer by taking out Alex’s number two besides her sister, but who am I kidding Neeley is a black woman and this is a public vote in America :joker:

JerseyWins 26-10-2016 02:41 AM

^ lmaooooo :joker:

wut @ all of that

Anyway, I still feel like Scott will go but maybe it's close and it could go either way. :idc:

JerseyWins 26-10-2016 02:44 AM

Also, watching the live DR's right now for the first time since I think the first one. This will be the first one I plan to possibly watch from start to finish since I think it'll give me a better chance of seeing where people's heads are at.

Danielle was just up first. Is it me or does she seem depressed or something? :shrug: She has a pretty different demeanor.


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