Patriarchy? What does that mean in the context of opinions in this thread? This thread is mostly page after page of anti asylum seeker bs, but a few dissenting posts equals what exactly?

Of course it would be the same if young, white, men, women, and children were fleeing the conditions that these people are. It's not the brown skin that makes them worthy of assistance, it's the fact we caused a lot of these problems, and they're people, not trash or parasites, or an invading force.

Good Points

Lol it’s not women and children fleeing France though is it, that’s my point it’s boatloads of young fit men who have the edge because of their gender

Again, I will reiterate, we need to be taking families and vulnerable people from camps and every boatload arriving illegally means less of that happening

...I read an article quite recently that said the percentage of young adult men seeking asylum had stayed pretty flat in its figures for the last 10 years...and it’s a lower percentage of granted asylum as it is with families...I guess there will always be working age males though who would be looking to work and send money to their families in their home country...and hope for them to join them in the future as well...I don’t know if that’s the case...but we don’t see all ‘arrivals’ of those seeking asylum in the U.K. and then there is a whole, lengthy process to go through and we don’t know who is granted and who isn’t...many, many will be turned away and will return to their home countries, I would think...Nigel Farage has just so, so much to answer for...while he sits there with his glass of Port and cigar, or whatever he does...

if that is the case why are they not seeking to settle and work in many of the safe countries they have travelled through? if my family was depending on me why would I risk my life crossing the channel to spend months awaiting processing, makes no sense to me anyway

I feel sorry for those that have families here though from what I have seen reported it tends to be cousins and more extended family rather than immediate family

The BBC followed a family in a camp in Syria for a year, it was so uplifting to see that family fjnally being brought to the UK and settled in a home, and ready to integrate into the community, and the opportunity for their girls to start school :love:

A new day of people arriving, congrats for making it through guys! A little bit of love for them!

Leaving what must be the ****hole that is France, as they are so desperate to leave :clap1:

Edited slightly because they're not from France, you know.

They probably have good reasons to want to move to the UK :shrug: They probably like English tea better than coffee, that must be the only reason they left their homecountry in the first place.

France must be a terrible place as they risk their lives to flee :pipe:

Or maybe it was their initial goal to get to the UK? Who knows. Certainly not any of us.

Anyway, I'm not here to do the whole discussion thing again, I did it previously in this thread and it's never ending. Just here to show daily support and love to people who have terrible lives and made it to where they wanted to be with the hope to live a happier life. Love love love.:love::love::love:

That's economic then, not asylum, lets call it what it is rather than wrapping it up in the Asylum blanket. Also it doesn't say much for the French economy if they can't make a life there, but that' s another story.

Absolutely, really thought provoking post from you there.

I despair for the UK, particularly England now.

It's really concerning some of the intolerant attitude to, as you near indicate, those just hoping for a possibly better life and future.

Young fitter individuals, would be able to work harder and easier to help their families in the future by earning initially.

If I were an asylum seeker myself, I doubt I'd now be looking at England as a land of opportunity anymore.
With some of the really hostile attitudes directed at them, no matter their circumstances or why they're seeking asylum.

The UK governments, (plural, all parties of government), like messing up in other Countries, however not so keen on sorting the mess out we help in part create there however.

The last thing I will say on this is it's cheering on the traffickers, these guys are paying to risk they lives and being sold a dummy, in reality they will come here, be processed, and be returned, it's the trafficers who are laughing all the way to the bank selling dreams that do not exist

The same folks saying they should stay in France wouldn't be saying that if they lived in France. Then it would be that they should have stayed in Italy or Greece. The moveable goalposts.

[15 life jackets were counted at the spot where they
came ashore suggesting others may have slipped away.
Eleven illegal migrants including mother and teenage son
are rounded up by police near Dover town centre
after arriving in dinghy which was discovered next to port]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08...7401865150.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wn-centre.html

Can't be right. People in this thread keep telling us it's only men crossing the channel.

Yay! Welcome and congrats for making it! :dance:

You need to take them back/

The benefits available to asylum seekers in France is just over double what they can get here.

They want to be in the UK, let them be happy and build a nice future there.

I think by people you mean me, ...what is the percentage of women, elderly folk and children crossing?

Whats your point?

I have no idea, but neither does anyone else in this thread.

It can't be purely economic if they are passing up double the benefits to leave there.

Nah not buying that

If someone left a job to join another company for half the salary, then said it was for economic reasons, what wold you think?

...it may be that some asylum seekers have relatives living in the U.K. already...which would indicate this being their destination country...

I would think there is something not right with the story, I assume they are leaving France as they have not been given status as asylum seekers, if i'ts that good they are leaving for a reason, either they have family members here in the UK or they will be deported by the French

Let's not assume what are people's motives to do what they are doing, please. It can be one, many, neither already mentionned, all of the above etc So let's be kind.

I'm very kind :smug:

No Future.
No Money.


It's cheaper to pay France
to take them back.

Why just France though, if I follow your logic? They don't come FROM France, they're for someplace else and crossed other european countries to get there. So that doesn't make sense. Just be tolerant and open-minded, it's not that hard.

We will soon return to them France
as that the last place they came from.
And The UK will have to pay France

Perfect. The gov wll be cutting services to the poor of this country because of the recession and no deal brexit, but paying 10's of millions of pounds to stop a few desperate brown people getting in here. Shameful and a complete waste of money.

Look Slim we have no choice
to get a solid agreement
the French demand money,
so we will have to pay them
per illegal migrant returned.


In the Long run
it is cheaper to do this.

Would you rather £1 being invested in the services this country needs, such as healthcare, homelessness, poverty etc, or that £1 going to France to repel dinghies?

If the look on that mans face is him fleeing France it must be a terrible place :laugh:

That photograph is no better than Farage's invasion picture :nono:

These people are leaving a safe haven, putting their kids in plastic boats and crossing a busy shipping lane, that is not the act of responsible adults

People would still whinge if these people came in through the ‘proper’ channels, it’s not about the method, it’s about the people