He needs to go
to the Airport to see it now
so long as you can past Taliban Check point
its all OK now


Yes The USA Troops Fired in the Air
to stop the massive amount entering.
His wife was caught in that.
So shocking

Trump last night
made sense.

Saying get everyone out first
before giving the date.

I think the most chilling part of it all how they are trying to troll the media by saying they have changed :facepalm:

Absolutely.

The sad thing is that this is something the whole world needs to help take part in. I also think that someone who has never had experience in war/the military, shouldn’t be president/someone who can start a war without finishing it and ensuring that everything is stable before leaving.

It’s not just as simple as ‘leave them to it, it’s their country’ or ‘just nuke them all’, it’s something that takes the UN to agree on and plan for the next 50-100 years.

War isn’t always just killing innocents and enemies. It’s rebuilding schools and hospitals too. And a lot of people who have no knowledge of military life have no idea about this.

My kind of MIL (she calls herself that lol) was in Afghanistan and kids used to throw rocks and things at her and the soldiers. She would throw back socks and the kids were so happy… it’s crazy

I don’t really post on here anymore but I’ve been needing to find an outlet for my thoughts on this, bc this is the most worried I have been in years. I fear that this is the start of some very dark times

it's very concerning. Even someone who helped our soldiers 20 years ago and is eligible to come to the uk/usa could have completely changed their allegiance in that time ... how can that be investigated/checked

I think it's important to remember that Afghanistan doesn't pose a terrorist threat. They were invaded for harbouring Al-Qaeda which was based and funded on and by Saudi ideological Wahhabism. Saudi and Pakistan are the main perpetrators of terror in the region, and they aren't challenged by us because Pakistan has the bomb, and the Saudis have the money.

The main folly is thinking that any amount of years can force people to change their belief or ideological systems and practices. The only way the region "modernises" is through an Islamic renaissance, not invasion and occupation.

Afghanistan was an open and westernised country in the 70's, until Russia invaded, and the US funded and trained the religious mujahedeen to fight them. People have the right of self determination, and not Uk and US imperialism and pseudo-colonisation.

I agree that everyone is entitled to their beliefs in ideologies. But when you have a certain country/group in power that are committing terrorist attacks all over the world, you can’t just sit back and let it happen.

Sure but that's not much comfort to the women there who now have to get back to being non-human property with no autonomy

They aren't committing terror attacks all over the world. World terrorism is funded by the Saudis, Pakistan, and maybe Iran in some instances.

Yup. There should be a hell of a lot of vetting before any refugees are accepted from that region.

I agree, and what we've done to them is appalling as I've stated numerous times in this thread already. I was talking in general terms about the potential for terrorism, and the misguided thinking that occupation of any length will outlast them.

I don't support the actions taken by the US and the UK in the slightest.

The situation in Afghanistan is deeply important to Anoush Dastgir, the country's only 31-year-old national coach. Dastgir came to the Netherlands at a young age and tells De Telegraaf about the situation of one of his players who is in Afghanistan. Because of the seizure of power by the Taliban, he has to fear for his life.

As a footballer in the Netherlands, Dastgir just didn't make it to professional football and decided at a young age to focus on the coaching profession. He was appointed by the Afghan Football Association in 2018, becoming the youngest national coach ever. "I soon noticed that the national team had a huge influence on the rest of our country," said the proud Dastgir. "Previously, one television channel had the broadcasting rights, now there are four. The people of Afghanistan say that we are their only joy, that we are the only ones who put a smile on their faces. The connection grew so much that I started to delve more and more into politics."

Now that the Taliban have taken power in Afghanistan, football has become an afterthought in the country. "I have daily contact with my players via WhatsApp," dastgir says. "One is in western Afghanistan. He sent, "Trainer, I really need to cry that you send me a message. We are so powerless. Every day we wonder when they come to kill me, because I played for the national team." I didn't sleep for four or five nights. I can only hope that the Taliban do not invade his house and kill him. He just played for the people."

Dastgir's father, like him, has a Dutch passport, but went back to Afghanistan in 2004 to help the country. The national coach appeals to his father and the rest of the Afghan citizens. "This is the time when the Afghan people must ensure that the Taliban do not gain total power. The moment when they can retain their rights, which has been fought for for twenty years and for which people have been killed. Show once that it was not for nothing. If that doesn't happen, then in a month's time, when the media attention is gone, you will have no chance."

Dastgir thinks that his father should stay despite the extremely troubled situation. "It may hurt my father that I say this, but I don't want him to abandon his residents. He can take the plane, because he has a Dutch passport. But I don't want him to do that. I want him to be at the forefront of the fight if there is resistance. He went back to Afghanistan in 2004 to make a difference. Now there are problems and he should not leave."

Dastgir himself continues to monitor the situation from the Netherlands. "I went in a different direction and as a national coach in my field I have meant something to my country. I didn't grow up in Afghanistan. I do ask him to stay. No matter how bad it gets. Even if he were to die in battle. Then I am very sad, but at the same time very proud. Fight together and then you can win, draw or lose. That's the way it is for me, and that's the way it is for my father."

https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=392505

dutch article which i translated, felt interesting enough to share here

Afghanistan's fugitive President Ashraf Ghani is in the United Arab Emirates, the Gulf state's foreign ministry has announced.

"The UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation can confirm that the UAE has welcomed President Ashraf Ghani and his family into the country on humanitarian grounds," a spokesperson said in a statement.

Mr Ghani fled the capital Kabul on Sunday afternoon as Taliban fighters advanced on the city.

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Apparently he also had $169 million in cash

Just watched an interview with the British Ambassador who has stayed on along with a team of volunteers to process visas, what a contrast eh

That's not quite the full story. The Taliban make millions upon millions annually from drug trafficking, extortion, ransoms and most of all opium production (over £300 million) in 2018 - 2019 alone.

Where is Kamala Harris? If Biden won’t break off from his holidays surely she should be stepping up?

The CIA says hi.

Boris spoke to Biden last night. Thats the first contact Biden has had with a foreign leader since it became obvious that the taliban were going to surge through the country. I don't think relations are good with the USA at all

:conf: What does that response mean?

Proof she is as useless as he is.

It means that the CIA have a history of doing exactly the same things.

It is indeed.:wavey:

Can you post links please.

This thread is about the Taliban activities. Your response is verging on making excuses for them.

it's well known parm, thats what oliver north was involved in too

I did not think this biden presidency would have imploded so soon but there you go...

No it isn't. I'm pointing out that what the Taliban is doing is nothing new.

Do we know how many refugees the US are planning to take, absolutely shocking that he should be on holiday and no one is asking why he is, this process was instigated by Trump, however he could have overturned it, and saying Trump would be out by 1st May while he has added four months to the schedule is just not good enough, the other thing is I see people standing up in Parliament today saying the evacuation should have started when Trump made the deal, makes sense but did anyone stand up in Parliament and ask for this before now

We created this mess, imagine controlling a country for decades then just walk away without a care in the world about what would happen

yeah, parliament has been available since the decision was made by trump.

Also, Biden wont admit it, but he is much closer to trump politically than he makes out. Compare and contrast trump to obama, and there is much more of a fundamental difference

Meh. People won't remember this in 2024.

if he makes that date

All I'm saying is, this wouldn't be happening under Trump.

the mid terms are next year ... it really depends on the scale of the fallout. If there is even a sniff of a terrorist attack against the usa, the dems are finished for a generation

You do realise this is happening because of him?

I don't think people really understand, that the only reason this is actually happening, is because it is overwhelmingly popular with the American public. Even 60% of dems approved the move. The needle might shift on that, of course, but at the moment, that's where it's at.

It's the only reason he ended up running. On balance it's still the right decision because we have world-ending issues coming into frame that Trump/Republicans in general don't believe in or give a **** about. We could have had several people 10x better but when it comes right down to it, Trump had to go.

It's a bit early in the day to be drunk.