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Natalie. 20-06-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8740955)

Exactly :clap2:

armand.kay 20-06-2016 08:04 PM

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Dario to be revealed as the harpy, slain and then replaced by yara?

Tom4784 20-06-2016 08:49 PM

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Ugh, that episode was so good :flutter:

First of all I want Yara and Daenerys to get together and rule as a pair of rampaging lesbian queens.

Secondly, why the **** did Rickon run in a straight line when Ramsay was firing at him? If I was him I'd have been weaving side to side, cartwheeling, rolling and dancing my way to Jon. Bitch wanted to be a pin cushion.

Thirdly, the giant dying hurt way too much. I'm not here for this.

I loved that it was Sansa that brought Ramsay to his end, I love that she's reclaimed all that power that was taken from her last season and I'm really excited to see where her story goes next. Give us the Dark Sansa what was teased at the end of Season 4!

I think it's fairly certain that Cersei's going to use the hidden wildfire in King's Landing next episode, she'll take out the Sparrows but I think Tommen's gonna die in the process. Riverrun still being in the titles is raising my hopes of an LSH appearance too, I know it's not going to happen but I can't help but hope.

Also Daenerys better be getting her ass on those boats next episode, if she gets delayed again I'm going to lose my ****.

Scarlett. 20-06-2016 09:24 PM

I hope that next episode
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Arya kills Walder

Shaun 20-06-2016 09:32 PM

@ Chewy (not a spoiler lol dw just in response to yours)

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I can't see her reappearing until next season now but that'd be pretty badass.

Smithy 20-06-2016 10:06 PM

She NEEDS to go back to winterfell, the Starks need to reunite :fist:

Ross. 20-06-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 8742014)
She NEEDS to go back to winterfell, the Starks need to reunite :fist:

Yessss :clap1:

Tom4784 20-06-2016 10:15 PM

Yeah, I don't think Arya will get back to Westeros until next season but I do think she'll unite quickly with Sansa and Jon early on next season UNLESS

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She gets caught up in the potential LSH stuff. I can see her arc next season being based around choosing between Stoneheart who would obviously be an allegory for Arya's thirst for vengeance or returning to Winterfell and getting over that thirst for vengeance to help her family stabilise their position in the north and prepare for the White Walkers' attack and the reprisal from the south.

Brother Leon 21-06-2016 02:32 AM

What an episode. Was pretty obvious Little Finger was coming in last minute to save the day, but the fight was still epic. Little worried about Ramsay dying. There is a lack of a real villain now. Sansa making herself the best female on the show. Good stuff.

user104658 21-06-2016 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 8742856)
What an episode. Was pretty obvious Little Finger was coming in last minute to save the day, but the fight was still epic. Little worried about Ramsay dying. There is a lack of a real villain now. Sansa making herself the best female on the show. Good stuff.

Suggests to me that we're gearing towards "Winter arriving" - if you look at a Westeros map, Winterfell sits right in the center of what's almost a "dividing line" between North and South, located around what is likely to be a new battlefront once the Wall is (inevitably) breached. It'll be the rallying point for a defence being mounted... and plotline-wise, for that to happen, it has to be the Starks back in Winterfell.

The only option for Ramsay to survive would have been if he fled back to the Bolton Dreadfort - which would instantly make him an unthreatening villain having fled - or for them to have kept him alive and captive and then him to later escape or be freed... but that would be unrealistic. Both Sansa and Jon wanted him very dead (The only reason Jon didn't beat him to death was because he realised Sansa deserved the kill), and while Jon could maybe have been swayed by someone advising him of an advantage to keeping him alive... not Sansa. She was always going to kill him as soon as she had the chance.

I thought it was a brilliant episode. I've seen a lot of complaints from people about it being predictable (both at Meereen and Winterfell) but that's really not the point... it's been obvious all season which way the battles were going to go in terms of plot (Daenerys at some point must head West, and with a large army, undefeated... and as above the Starks had to take Winterfell) but how they actually executed it was brilliant. The Winterfell battle was so well choreographed and shot... the scene with Jon being trampled was almost impossible to watch because it really felt like being there with him. I felt like there could have been more of a fight between Jon and Ramsay - not a long one necessarily as Jon clearly has far more real battle experience - but it was played well for what it was. I also thought the way the two battles were contrasted against each other was great. Daenerys effortlessly gliding around with her dragons bringing it all to a quick and decisive end, vs the Winterfell battle which was a bloody, muddy, corpse-mountain-scrambling mess.

Niamh. 21-06-2016 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 8742856)
What an episode. Was pretty obvious Little Finger was coming in last minute to save the day, but the fight was still epic. Little worried about Ramsay dying There is a lack of a real villain now.. Sansa making herself the best female on the show. Good stuff.

I was thinking that too, but to be fair they're good at finding an even bigger **** once one kicks the bucket :laugh: Could be Euron maybe? there doesn't seem to be many bad assess left up North now though..........they need a break after Ramsay though tbf

But anyway Oh.My.God. what an episode, probably my absolute favourite one so far, I suppose the fact that because it's passed the books out now and I had no idea what was going to happen, it was the first big episode where I was properly at the edge of my seat practically the whole way through. The giant dying :'(

When Jon was beating Ramsay and then he stopped gav was shouting Ramsay is going going to stab him, i was thinking no get away from him Jon :worry: and then finish him off ffs but I was so glad he got the ending he deserved, it was absolutely perfection Sansa and the hounds, Bite the hand who never fed them for 7 days :hee:

also, here for Dara :lovedup:

user104658 21-06-2016 09:12 AM

Also... what's Littlefinger going to want in return for arriving to save the day? There will of course be something :joker:.

Oh and does this mean that the Starks now technically own the Bolton's Dreadfort as well as Winterfell? There are officially no Bolton's left... as Sansa told Ramsay... the name dies with him.

Niamh. 21-06-2016 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8743047)
Also... what's Littlefinger going to want in return for arriving to save the day? There will of course be something :joker:.

Oh and does this mean that the Starks now technically own the Bolton's Dreadfort as well as Winterfell? There are officially no Bolton's left... as Sansa told Ramsay... the name dies with him.

Unless she's pregnant with his child, ew I hope not though :/


Little finger will probably want Sansa to marry him so he can rule the North, she's got more claim than Jon as he's a bastard

user104658 21-06-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8743045)
I was thinking that too, but to be fair they're good at finding an even bigger **** once one kicks the bucket :laugh: Could be Euron maybe? there doesn't seem to be many bad assess left up North now though..........they need a break after Ramsay though tbf

I think Euron is going to be heading East, though, and there will be a showdown with him and the Ironborn kidz + Daeneryion (That's Dany & Tyrion, he's become her little Jiminy Cricket :hee: ). Maybe they'll meet half way and we'll get an epic Ironborn sea battle?

user104658 21-06-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8743053)
Unless she's pregnant with his child, ew I hope not though :/

The timeframes are quite extended per season in GoT though, even though they don't show a lot of it and it isn't always obvious, their travelling takes weeks if not longer... so she would know that by now. It should be 6 months to a year since Sansa and Theon escaped - she's had time to travel North to find Jon, travel around (trying to) raise armies, and get back to Winterfell. Also Theon has had time to make his way to the Iron Islands basically on foot and then all the way across the oceans to Meereen, which is the other side of the "known world", a journey which would have taken months alone. Plus Jaime Lannister... he's been from King's Landing to Highgarden and back with an army, then raised another army and marched it all the way to Riverrun...

I look into these things far too technically. I have a map with distances and everything :joker:


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Little finger will probably want Sansa to marry him so he can rule the North, she's got more claim than Jon as he's a bastard
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Or not even a full blood Stark, of course... as Ned is supposedly his uncle rather than his father

Niamh. 21-06-2016 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8743054)
I think Euron is going to be heading East, though, and there will be a showdown with him and the Ironborn kidz + Daeneryion (That's Dany & Tyrion, he's become her little Jiminy Cricket :hee: ). Maybe they'll meet half way and we'll get an epic Ironborn sea battle?

Danys battles are never going to be "edge of you seat" though now she's got her dragons working on her command

Niamh. 21-06-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8743069)
The timeframes are quite extended per season in GoT though, even though they don't show a lot of it and it isn't always obvious, their travelling takes weeks if not longer... so she would know that by now. It should be 6 months to a year since Sansa and Theon escaped - she's had time to travel North to find Jon, travel around (trying to) raise armies, and get back to Winterfell. Also Theon has had time to make his way to the Iron Islands basically on foot and then all the way across the oceans to Meereen, which is the other side of the "known world", a journey which would have taken months alone. Plus Jaime Lannister... he's been from King's Landing to Highgarden and back with an army, then raised another army and marched it all the way to Riverrun...

I look into these things far too technically. I have a map with distances and everything :joker:




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Or not even a full blood Stark, of course... as Ned is supposedly his uncle rather than his father


Good, I hope you're right about that and they don't just say "**** the time frames, lets make a mini Ramsay" :laugh:

I was thinking when Yara and Theon arrived in Mereen, "how the **** did they get there so fast?"

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Well yeah but everyone still assumes he's Neds bastard so I was just running with that.

Will be interesting to see how he finds out he's not though, I assume Bran will see it in one of his visions, that he'll go inside the TOJ with Ned the next time? or else Howland Reed will tell him

Or maybe we're all being trolled and we'll find out that Jon is just Neds bastard after all :fan:

Drew. 21-06-2016 09:48 AM

We have lost two legendary villains in Joffrey and Ramsay. Will be hard to top either of those if they try to in the future.

Amazing episode though, one of my favourites so far.

Niamh. 21-06-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 8743101)
We have lost two legendary villains in Joffrey and Ramsay. Will be hard to top either of those if they try to in the future.

Amazing episode though, one of my favourites so far.

Will be but I never thought they'd have someone worse than Joffery and then up pops ramsay so you never know :laugh:

user104658 21-06-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8743087)
Good, I hope you're right about that and they don't just say "**** the time frames, lets make a mini Ramsay" :laugh:

I was thinking when Yara and Theon arrived in Mereen, "how the **** did they get there so fast?"

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Well yeah but everyone still assumes he's Neds bastard so I was just running with that.

Will be interesting to see how he finds out he's not though, I assume Bran will see it in one of his visions, that he'll go inside the TOJ with Ned the next time? or else Howland Reed will tell him

Or maybe we're all being trolled and we'll find out that Jon is just Neds bastard after all :fan:


They've been hinting at Bran finding out all about "young Ned" so yeah I imagine once he masters being able to do his little vision walks without the help of Ming the Merciless he'll start to find out various "real truths" about the history of his family and, probably, the whole world (there will no doubt be other things he sees that aren't quite what they seem in the history books).

Niamh. 21-06-2016 09:55 AM

Did you ever read this theory relating to that one TS?

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That Lyanna actually had twins, Jon and Meera and Ned took Jon and Howland took Meera. I like that one

user104658 21-06-2016 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8743108)
Did you ever read this theory relating to that one TS?

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That Lyanna actually had twins, Jon and Meera and Ned took Jon and Howland took Meera. I like that one

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Maybe, but in the show they've possibly messed that one up a bit as it seems like Meera is supposed to be more around Bran's age, or at most Sansa's age, so a few years younger than Jon?

Niamh. 21-06-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8743115)
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Maybe, but in the show they've possibly messed that one up a bit as it seems like Meera is supposed to be more around Bran's age, or at most Sansa's age, so a few years younger than Jon?

They look about the same age to me and they are in the books I think, have they actually said they're different ages because the actors are 26 and 29

Tom4784 21-06-2016 11:07 AM

Euron will probably become the main human villain in the next series, I'm guessing.

Niamh. 21-06-2016 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8743194)
Euron will probably become the main human villain in the next series, I'm guessing.

has to be, don't know if there's any other contenders really


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