Well apparently Vanessa wanted that to happen but she looked so disappointed on the show. :joker: (getting James evicted makes sense for her but not great to keep a strong trio at final 6... I still can't believe Austwins didn't evict John but I'm happy about it)

Steve won HOH

Based of talks looks like Steve is nominating Liz and Austin as they dont want the 3rd austwin (Julia) winning the veto and she is seen the weakest of the 3.

My favs are gone and now it's come down to me wanting Julia to win the whole thing.

Steve wins HOH.

Well... Everything went Vanessa´s way yet again. Just give her the check already and close the doors.

Johnny can win now

He won´t. If he goes to the final 3 with Steve and Vanessa, he is going to lose to both of them. He would lose to Liz as well. Only ones he would win against are Julia and Austin.

So it seems either Liz or Vanessa is leaving this week. They would be really stupid to not get rid of one of the twins at this point. Or Austin and Twins to not get rid of Vanessa, if they win veto.

Would John even win against Julia or Austin? Julia maybe but Austin is strangely loved by many in there

^ Hmm, maybe he might have a struggle with them.

In terms of game (strategy wise at least), he hasn´t done much to nothing really.

Competition wise he has 3 vetos and 3 BOB losses. Without Vanessa and Steve, he wouldn´t be there anymore.

I actually think John would win against a lot of people. I have a feeling that this particular jury will vote on who they like the most not who played the best game. And everyone in the jury loves Johnny Mac.

Can Steve leave next please

the twins and austin can leave before Steve

Twins, Austin and Steve for final 4!

i dont really care that much to watch feeds anymore. now i'll likely just read whats going on and feedback from discussion on other things that get missed in updates. i cant stand anyone left. though John has never really bothered me except his weird love for Clay/Shelli and his existence through lame DR. this season overall has been great but the ending is gonna lower my overall score of it compared to other seasons. its like BB15 ending for me now after that ones last DE episode. except without the over the top hatred (except Twins) & outright bigotry. still better than 15 & 16 final people. 14 i thought was a good season and liked those final 5/6 mostly but thought Dan should have won.

It would be funny if the 5 in jury right now agreed to all vote for Johnny Mac no matter who he's against. :joker:

And while Johnny Mac doesn't really deserve to win against too many people as of right now, it'd still be impressive to get to the final 6 against what was a 5 person alliance (and a trio that are very much against him) and ends up making it to the end against them.

^ Vanessa was a great help on that. Also Shelli and Clay being in there helped a lot.

Yeah i'm so done with Austwins

i rather John win than the rest and i dont like using the deserve word tbh. i dont like bitter juries for the most part but if Vanessa is F2 i wouldnt mind her getting the shaft. tehe. jury management is a part of the game and she sucks something awful at it. though i cant stand how some jurors act like its the only thing to consider when i dont think it should be.

Austwins :omgno:
I hate that name because it has wins at the end and it would be awful just awful x80000 if he wins

The twins are piiiiiissed :joker: Hoping whichever two survive out of Austwins win out but I hope Steve is their target before Johnny Mac. :worry:

Julia winning POV and then twins evicting Vanessa would be so ideal but obviously an unlikely scenario.

If Liz is still on the block after POV then she says she's gonna go off on Steve and tell him that he just lost 3 votes in jury so good luck. :laugh3:

Steve wants Austin out, i think. I though he would want Liz out and break up two couples, but i guess not.

He said to himself, "Liz you´re not my target. You think you are, but you´re not".

No they don't? Jackie, James, and Meg don't have any notable relationship with him. Shelli got closer to him at the end but that's only after she was shunned by everyone else in the house. Put the twins on the jury and they've talked so much **** about him and how he yells in the DR and this and that. John doesn't have any real relationship with most of the people because he just sits around in bed all day and doesn't talk to anyone. Becky's the only one he had a somewhat good relationship with.

Vanessa's jury management definitely hasn't been good, but this cast, at least while they were in the house, all seemed to do a really good job at separating the game and real life. Even though they're all backstabbing each other and scheming behind each other's backs A LOT, they're still able to have a lot of fun moments as a whole house in spite of it all. I think it's a drastically different house climate than say BB14, where Dan's horrible jury management did come back to haunt him. Like, he essentially lost because he was a huge camera ***** and it was just that off-putting to everyone else <3