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2 British Nationals (charity workers )
have been captured by Russian troops
in Ukraine

Paul Urey & Dylan Healy.

SkyNewsHD Live

[Their capture was announced by
UK non-profit organisation Presidium Network
It said they were seized at a checkpoint
south of the city of Zaporizhzhia
They were later identified as
Paul Urey and Dylan Healy,
operating on their own
Zaporizhzhia is a crucial way station
for thousands of Ukrainians fleeing
Mariupol - the southern
port city that has been largely captured
by Russia
It comes after Scott Sibley, a British veteran,
was killed fighting in Ukraine
The whereabouts of another Brit fighting
in Ukraine remained unknown]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Ukraine.html

man goes to war zone after being warned not to go and gets killed

Russia's assault on Donbas has "sort of fizzled" and the battle for the region will be over in two to four weeks, says military expert Dr Mike Martin.

The war studies visiting fellow at King's College London says: "Basically the Russians are gonna run out of troops, and the Ukrainians are going to counterattack."

The Russians have squandered their one chance to take the region, he believes.

"They pulled all of these mauled units out of Kyiv, and then tried to reconstitute them for combat in the east," he explains.

But they were "bruised and damaged" by the battle for the Ukrainian capital and Russia failed to build them up and "do some bold manoeuvre".

And Martin says there has been a "major strategic shift" in the war, with the UK declaring its aim is to clear Russian forces from Ukraine, including Crimea.

He adds that UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss is "wrong", however, to say this would take 10 years, insisting: "Russian forces will collapse before that, and we’ll see a coup."

And with the US announcing US$33bn (£26bn) of funding for Ukraine, "that is an extremely clear signal of intent", says Martin.

It also means Nato and the US have decided Vladimir Putin is bluffing about using nuclear weapons if Nato up the ante, he adds.

[Putin's propagandists simulate NUKING Europe
with missiles hitting in 200 seconds and 'no survivors']

Come on
you Evil Little Russian
Scotland could survive

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04...1305402274.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...survivors.html

im sure the west will now do a diagram of what russia will look like if they try it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11158826)

We can defend against a few nukes, we can't defend against several fired simultaneously. If you're saying it would be the former scenario then it makes even less sense - because they know what we have at our disposal as well, and they're sure as **** not going to start firing off nukes that won't even hit their target... they'd still be opening themselves up to counter-attack just for trying. That's sort of the point of M.A.D.

Either the talk of going nuclear is cold war style saber rattling, or we're ****ed. It sort of is that black and white.

Just to add some sort of backing to this, from the bottom of what arista posted above;

Quote:

A number of countries maintain anti-missile systems which aim to shoot down or destroy missiles before the are able to reach their intended targets.

But these systems are typically only effective against small numbers of missiles, travelling well below hypersonic speeds.

The advent of hypersonic missile technology and long-range ICBMs, such as Russia's latest Sarmat missile, have made anti-missile systems largely redundant.

The U.S.' Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation said that 'despite decades of research, development, and testing, there remains no reliably effective anti-missile system to counter intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs)'.

Existing missile defence systems, such as the U.S. Patriot system, can target incoming short-, medium- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles whose threat is localised to one region, but cannot effectively protect against nuclear-capable ICBMs such as the Sarmat that can deploy warheads across vast areas.

According to former Assistant Secretary of Defense and U.S. chief weapons evaluator Philip Coyle: 'All missile defense systems can be overwhelmed... It is only if the attack is limited that the defense can have a hope of not being overwhelmed.'

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11159801)

im sure the west will now do a diagram of what Russia will look like if they try it

Of Course

But those that live in Scotland
are more safe

The lucky sods

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04...1305390378.jpg

Look you Russian Punk
say that to my face.

I will punch you in the head

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11159808)

Of Course

But those that live in Scotland
are more safe

The lucky sods

scotland is where our nuclear subs are stationed so they will probably be the first target

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11159815)

Scotland is where our nuclear subs are stationed so they will probably be the first target

Not if they are out in the Sea

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11159818)

Not if they are out in the Sea

its their home base, its the obvious first target

https://www.itemfix.com/v?t=r4bob6

Ukraine’s Unmanned Aerial Vehicle dropping munitions on Russian soldiers

And if the Ukrainian President had taken the US offer to evacuate him to the US and the Russians rolled into Kyv with no resistance...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 11159864)

And if the Ukrainian President had taken the US offer to evacuate him to the US and the Russians rolled into Kyv with no resistance...

No he needs to be there

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11159887)

No he needs to be there

Since others are postulating about a nuclear attack on Europe, I am merely postulating on an alternative history.

This president has gone for violent resistance, and many are dead.

Ghandi went up against the British in India with non violent resistance and won independence for India.

As he once said "An eye for an eye only make everyone blind"

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11159811)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04...1305390378.jpg

Look you Russian Punk
say that to my face.

I will punch you in the head

Oh p*ss off Arista

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11159815)

scotland is where our nuclear subs are stationed so they will probably be the first target

Mmmmm I presumed it would be London getting targeted

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[Safe passage for civilians to leave Mariupol under way - UN]

A few 100 out.

[An operation to evacuate civilians trapped
in a steelworks in the southern city of
Mariupol is under way, the UN says
The Ukrainian president says a group of
about 100 people have left and should
arrive in the town of Zaporizhzhia tomorrow
An evacuation plan for residents from other
parts of Mariupol has been postponed
until Monday morning
The Speaker of the USA House
of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi,
has led a Congressional delegation to Kyiv to
meet President Zelensky]

BBC feed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61252785

The 19 year old British student Nikolai Nizalov
in Ukraine Fighting Russians
was just Live on GBnewsHD.

He is angry his UK University will not give him funding?

It is advised by UK Government
not to fight in Ukraine

https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploa...size=644%2C338

Probably the work of the far left to block Ukrainian visas.

In the Steel Works there are around 20 Children
under the rubble.

A Man, out there, on GMBHD itv
said they can not lift the slabs?