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InOne 05-10-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5527774)
this is one of those that you know wont have a happy ending.
i think one thing we can do on this and other sites across the internet is sign a petition to bring back the death penalty!

You think the death penalty would deter future paedophiles? I highly doubt it.

Niamh. 05-10-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5527786)
You think the death penalty would deter future paedophiles? I highly doubt it.

It would certainly keep those convicted off the streets and away from other children though

InOne 05-10-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5527787)
It would certainly keep those convicted off the streets and away from other children though

So does prison.

Niamh. 05-10-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5527789)
So does prison.

Yes it does, I'm not saying they should bring back the death penalty at all, I am saying that people guilty of crimes like that should never be put back into society again, more to protect innocent children, rather than to punish the criminal. Unfortunately life in prison rarely means life in prison

Vicky. 05-10-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5527789)
So does prison.

For a short time.

Should get life, meaning life. Screw this rehabilitation stuff tbh, prison in my eyes should be for punishment, not rehabilitation which doesnt even work half the time and they go on to offend again.

InOne 05-10-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5527791)
Yes it does, I'm not saying they should bring back the death penalty at all, I am saying that people guilty of crimes like that should never be put back into society again, more to protect innocent children, rather than to punish the criminal. Unfortunately life in prison rarely means life in prison

I agree. They need to sort out the level of risk thing before they're even considered to be let out. That system doesn't seem too good at the moment

InOne 05-10-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5527792)
For a short time.

Should get life, meaning life. Screw this rehabilitation stuff tbh, prison in my eyes should be for punishment, not rehabilitation which doesnt even work half the time and they go on to offend again.

Well yes, I think it's pretty much impossible to 'rehabilitate' a Paedophile, if it's there it's there kinda thing. They can only be taught to control the urges. I'd say a lot of them can't...

Niamh. 05-10-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5527794)
I agree. They need to sort out the level of risk thing before they're even considered to be let out. That system doesn't seem too good at the moment

I'm all for rehabilitation for things like robbery and lesser crimes but paedophilia and murder? I don't think it's worth risking innocent peoples lives on the hope that the rehabilitation has worked and the only way to test it is to send them back out and cross your fingers, not good enough imo

InOne 05-10-2012 11:47 AM

See my post to Vicky

Vicky. 05-10-2012 11:48 AM

Yes I should have said my post was about more serious crimes such as murder and child abuse...I do believe rehabilitation can work in some cases, but I dont think tis worth the risk in more serious cases.

Suze 05-10-2012 11:48 AM

I can see how some would get angry enough to want the death penalty back, especially if it is someone close to them who has suffered at the hands of evil people, and in their situation to be fair I wouldn't know how I would feel I suppose, but to me the death penalty would be ilike returning to barbaric ways. I agree the system at the moment is too easy on many criminals and a reform is needed, but I don't think the death penalty is the way. I don't think any person has a right to take anothers life. Plus it is a quick way out for those truely evil people around, why should their life end so abruptly when many of those they tortured suffered in so much pain. I know I haven't explained this very well, but it would take far too long to go into it all. It's an indepth subject really.

Vicky. 05-10-2012 11:49 AM

Story in the sun about a couple trying to entice kids into a blue landrover a day earlier 90 mins drive away from where April was taken. Dont wanna post the link as when people use the sun they tend to get blasted for it :/

Edit screw it. If you dont like the sun (and I dont blame you) dont click the link
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle4572769.ece

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AN attempt was made to lure two children into a car 24 hours before little April Jones went missing, it emerged last night.

The sinister twist to the hunt for April, five, came as pink ribbons were worn as a gesture of hope by her community in Machynlleth, Mid Wales.

A man and woman were involved in the feared earlier abduction attempt in Minera, 90 minutes’ drive from April’s home, on Sunday.

The mother of the two youngsters, aged seven and 11, told a friend they were playing in the rain when a car pulled up.

The male driver and a woman passenger offered them a lift because it was wet. When they refused the female told them to get into the back — but the children “hurried away”.

A source said: “It raises the possibility that another individual may hold the key to where April is.”

Police were believed to be investigating the new lead last night.

The mum’s pal, council manager Nicola Millar, 41, revealed the incident in a Facebook posting.

She wrote: “The woman got out of the car, opened the back door and told them to get in. My friend called the incident room. Police have asked if they can interview the children.”

Witnesses have told how April got into a car while playing with friends on Monday.

Story doesnt mention blue landrover, but this nichola miller posted on the FB page saying

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One of my best friends children were out playing on Sunday at 4pm in Minera, North Wales approximately an hour away from Mach, when they were approached by a blue left hand drive landrover discovery with a man AND a ...woman and asked if they wanted a lift as it was raining. The children who are 11 and 7 said no and the woman then got of the car and opened the back door and told them to get in. They hurried away. North Wales police were useless and did not take this seriously but the Dyfed Powys Incident room were fabulous and my friend's children are likely now to be interviewed. Didn't April tell her friend that she recognised 'them'? If there was a woman too then could this mean that she has April or knows where she is?

InOne 05-10-2012 11:51 AM

Yeah, like imagine if Ian Brady had got the death penatly? Would've been the easy way out. But instead they've kept him alive by force for years making him suffer and be in the world when he doesn't want to. He has a rather miserable life which I prefer than quick death.

Suze 05-10-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5527800)
Story in the sun about a couple trying to entice kids into a blue landrover a day earlier 90 mins drive away from where April was taken. Dont wanna post the link as when people use the sun they tend to get blasted for it :/

You should post the link, Vicky. I agree that the Sun and a few other rags are scum, but others can make their own minds up on reading the story, even so.

Vicky. 05-10-2012 11:55 AM

Yes was editing as you posted that :p

Niamh. 05-10-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5527800)
Story in the sun about a couple trying to entice kids into a blue landrover a day earlier 90 mins drive away from where April was taken. Dont wanna post the link as when people use the sun they tend to get blasted for it :/

Edit screw it. If you dont like the sun (and I dont blame you) dont click the link
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle4572769.ece




Story doesnt mention blue landrover, but this nichola miller posted on the FB page saying

If that had happened the day before surely that parents would have reported it to the Police and surely the parents would have been keeping a close eye on their kids while they were out playing :conf:

Vicky. 05-10-2012 12:01 PM

Sounds like the parents did call the police 'North Wales police were useless and did not take this seriously'

michael21 05-10-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5527808)
Sounds like the parents did call the police 'North Wales police were useless and did not take this seriously'

police are always slow

Niamh. 05-10-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5527808)
Sounds like the parents did call the police 'North Wales police were useless and did not take this seriously'

Yeah but would you let your 5 year old play in the streets where some strangers had tried to lure her/her friends into a van the day before? That doesn't make sense

Vicky. 05-10-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5527814)
Yeah but would you let your 5 year old play in the streets where some strangers had tried to lure her/her friends into a van the day before? That doesn't make sense

The other attempt happened 90 mins away. Wasnt quite in the same area, dont even know if these other 2 kids/their parents know april/her family.

Niamh. 05-10-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5527817)
The other attempt happened 90 mins away. Wasnt quite in the same area, dont even know if these other 2 kids/their parents know april/her family.

Oh right sorry, I misunderstood you, I thought it was the same area and the same kids

AnnieK 05-10-2012 12:23 PM

Prisoners get a stupidly easy life in prison...even paedophiles and sex offenders. I agree life should mean life in these cases as there is a high percentage of repeat offenders on release. I don't think the death penalty is the answer but we hold have a justice system similar to the USA...life without parole and bring back chain gangs. Get rid of luxuries and treat them like dogs..

thesheriff443 05-10-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5527786)
You think the death penalty would deter future paedophiles? I highly doubt it.

if a paedophile rapes a child in my eyes its the same as murder and i see no reason for them to be allowed to live with free room and board, options to take further eduacation coarses while they are in side and paid for by the tax payer.

arista 05-10-2012 01:58 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...33_964x282.jpg

not a good day for the family

bbfan1991 05-10-2012 02:17 PM

Sad news if she has been murdered:(. There are some horrible people out there and I hope Mark Bridger rots in hell if convicted.


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