Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197170)

I agree with you to a certain extent.. And as long as it isn't violent or degrading porn, I suppose an interest in it is healthy as a teenager

My daughter is 9 and although she doesn't search for pirn, she is at an age where she is curious about body parts etc.. She laughs hysterically every time she sees a naked bum.. Even a baby's bum on an advert will have her cackling away.. Now, she did a google search on "naked butts".. The results for such a search are not as innocent as she expected!

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197179)

I must actually text my friend! She adores porn, and the filthiest the better for her, but she also has a kid. I wonder how she feels about this? :suspect:

Originally Posted by Scott (Post 6197133)

i just think this entire thing is pointless

maybe i am being naive here but i think kids only become interested in this sort of thing once puberty starts (so around 12/13) and i doubt younger kids would go looking for porn or come across it by mistake

i just cant imagine an 8 year old girl using bing to search for hardcore anal fisting videos

and i think its actually healthy for older kids/teens to watch porn because its a completely normal thing to do

i actually think could have a detrimental effect and loads of kids will turn out like norman bates bc of this and end up murdering prostitutes and using their skin to make a cape or s/t

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6197134)

That's rather a bizarre hypothetical... Well looks like you're stuck till you find a place of your own, never mind. :joker:
Did men never wank before the internet was invented? no imagination these days.... :joker:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6197149)

Except he doesn't because he isn't in charge of his internet connection, neither am I, Zee, I assume numerous other people on this forum and in this country too...so how on earth is that fair? Are you now expecting us to sit down with our families and beg our parents to let us masturbate to bukkake? You'd have a point if the people I'm referring to were under 18, but we're not...and many people are about to put into this position all because some ignorant parents can't be arsed to take it upon themselves to protect their own children using the numerous pre-existing filters already widely available. Clearly some people have only been using the internet for a few years and are too clueless to educate themselves in order to ensure their poor little kids are protected from some cumshots and so the rest of us have to suffer.

Seriously, there are no pros to this legislation and the cons have been reeled off in this thread. It's intrusive and an invasion of privacy, it's pandering to lazy, ignorant parenting and a hysterically hypocritical tabloid, it's opening up the floodgates to more censorship and prying into people's personal lives and their online activity, it is laughably unfair to those who are of age but live in a household where they aren't in control of the internet connection, it has absolutely **** all to do with protecting children from child porn (which as I've already explained is extremely difficult to find regardless, though you seemed to ignore that) and, in the end...it is not going to change anything. If little Tommy has just got his first boner and he wants to find porn on Google cause his friends are talking about it and he's heard rumours about what it is and is intrigued, he will find away around it. And he will find it. Just like pretty much every other adolescent has done in the last decade.

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6197116)

Porn's a very regulated business; actors and actresses have frequent medical appointments to make sure they're disease free and their job is to have sex on camera so it's a pretty safe working environment when you're working for proper companies. Naturally there will of course be cases of people being forced into porn against their will; but that is prostitution, not pornography. Porn and prostitution are not the same thing. You make a completely valid point and I think it is important that illegal material is banned; but at the same time, people are already being vilified for being against this concept and at the heart of it all is morality, modesty, shame and humiliation. I don't think politics has any right to influence any of those human emotions.

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197170)

I agree with you to a certain extent.. And as long as it isn't violent or degrading porn, I suppose an interest in it is healthy as a teenager

My daughter is 9 and although she doesn't search for pirn, she is at an age where she is curious about body parts etc.. She laughs hysterically every time she sees a naked bum.. Even a baby's bum on an advert will have her cackling away.. Now, she did a google search on "naked butts".. The results for such a search are not as innocent as she expected!

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6197188)

I just did a search with Google Safesearch on, and there's nothing too explicit there.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6197206)

Then opt out... It really is that simple zee, there's no shame in it as you say and nobody is going to come to your door and look disapprovingly at you.
:laugh: I have said why I agree, it may seem extreme to do this now but seems to me there is a rising tide of illegal behaviour.

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197218)

My daughter is 9. She's not stupid. She knows how to switch safe search off

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197218)

My daughter is 9. She's not stupid. She knows how to switch safe search off

Originally Posted by Scott (Post 6197230)

idg why simulated rape porn is being made illegal either

do people really think that watching that sort of stuff makes the viewer go out and do it :conf2:

i liked watching the saw movies doesn't mean im gonna kidnap people and torture them to death kmt

Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6197208)

that's your fault. of course children are going to laugh when a bum comes on the tv, it's an aspect of immaturity that children go through.

and the fact she was able to search naked butts on the internet is your fault. she was unsupervised and you clearly don't have a proper filtering software on your computer.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6197206)

Then opt out... It really is that simple zee, there's no shame in it as you say and nobody is going to come to your door and look disapprovingly at you.
:laugh: I have said why I agree, it may seem extreme to do this now but seems to me there is a rising tide of illegal behaviour.

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6197149)

Except he doesn't because he isn't in charge of his internet connection, neither am I, Zee, I assume numerous other people on this forum and in this country too...so how on earth is that fair? Are you now expecting us to sit down with our families and beg our parents to let us masturbate to bukkake? You'd have a point if the people I'm referring to were under 18, but we're not...and many people are about to put into this position all because some ignorant parents can't be arsed to take it upon themselves to protect their own children using the numerous pre-existing filters already widely available. Clearly some people have only been using the internet for a few years and are too clueless to educate themselves in order to ensure their poor little kids are protected from some cumshots and so the rest of us have to suffer.

Seriously, there are no pros to this legislation and the cons have been reeled off in this thread. It's intrusive and an invasion of privacy, it's pandering to lazy, ignorant parenting and a hysterically hypocritical tabloid, it's opening up the floodgates to more censorship and prying into people's personal lives and their online activity, it is laughably unfair to those who are of age but live in a household where they aren't in control of the internet connection, it has absolutely **** all to do with protecting children from child porn (which as I've already explained is extremely difficult to find regardless, though you seemed to ignore that) and, in the end...it is not going to change anything. If little Tommy has just got his first boner and he wants to find porn on Google cause his friends are talking about it and he's heard rumours about what it is and is intrigued, he will find away around it. And he will find it. Just like pretty much every other adolescent has done in the last decade.

Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6197231)

Make sure she doesn't then. The fact that YOUR child is coming across she shouldn't be is YOUR fault. It's not mine, nor is it anyone else's.

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197255)

It wasn't on my computer it was on her iPod.. And I did install a child safe web browser and changed all her settings to a safe level. She uninstalled the safe browser and reinstalled safari.
Kids are very computer literate nowadays.. And I can check what she's searching for on her own devices, but Internet access isn't just restricted to home anymore.. They have Internet at school, in the library, on their phones, on their tablets, iPods, games consoles, grandmas house, their friends houses...

Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6197248)

It's going to make sex taboo again. Sex shouldn't be taboo. Masturbation shouldn't be taboo. They're two perfectly normal things, so I don't understand why it should be restricted or why it shouldn't be "normal". It's normal to watch porn, so why make it something that we shouldn't be doing?

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197264)

I'm not blaming you or anybody else... I'd just like hardcore pirnography not to be an option for kids.

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6197168)

Yes, because parents are thinking about their kids and childless people's lives are solely their own, they don't have to take responsibility for other people, so of course their views are different on this. That's part of growing up, coming into contact with sex and sexual images. Should we ban rom coms for promoting the idea that sex and love are intricately linked? Sex scenes in films are a no go; are we going to revert to a time when it was shocking to show Fred and Wilma Flintstone in bed together? I mean really - that is exactly what this proposal is promoting. An opt in would be fine if it was a personal choice offered to every individual person - but it isn't; it's an ISP measure and the person paying the internet bill will be the one to decide. Anyone over the age of 18, i.e. a legal adult wishing to view legal activity, is either having to pay for a separate porn connection (and how ridiculous is that?) or having to go along with a chastity ban. Are we living in the 19th century?

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6197276)

Well if it isn't taboo and if its normal, everybody should be happy enough to opt in.

Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6197266)

She's 9, why does she have an iPod?

This is bull****. Your 9 year old daughter in no way would know how to re-install Safari onto an iPod as well as unblocking all of the safe settings.