Didn't think they'd kill off Wes

I'm happy Frank isnt UTS and also omg @ wes already being dead before the fire..did frank hit him with the trophy Annalise left on the floor? Did he kill himself? What are they going to do regarding Rebeccas death? SO MANY QUESTIONS

People think he's not really dead. They think Frank or Nate helped him somehow. They talk about how he cut a deal with the DA and they they didn't show what happened after that. He fired his Lawyer etc. Hm

it'd be someone we hadn't been introduced to before his death.

Thing is, I HATE that in murder mysteries :laugh: And with Lila and Rebecca's deaths, both times it was someone we knew from the start so I gave them credit that they wouldn't suddenly pull a "oh it was this guy you met one episode ago" on us (even if on the orders of someone we knew). I think what makes it worse is that Wes was such a pivotal character death and having the resolution be so shoddy feels extra underwhelming.

To be honest I most likely will catch up closer to season 4 starting because season 1 was still brilliant (2 was really good too) and Annalise and Bonnie are two of my favourite characters on TV at the moment. But if it introduces another big mystery and then burns me with another cop out like this next season, I'll be out. :ninja2:

I hate it as well. It feels like such a waste of time since you could have just started watching the story line on the episode of the reveal and not have missed anything. I remember Doctors did a stalking story line a few years ago over the summer and I was really invested in that - and then they actually only introduced the stalker in the climax episode of the story line so I could have just tuned in to that one episode and not have missed anything.

I like it when murder mysteries set up a list of suspects and establish the characters/their motives and then slowly eliminate them until the reveal. It feels shoddy as you say when they just set up a mystery with no particular suspects and then reveal it to be some random non-established character with a motive that you wouldn't have guessed until they actually show you the flashback. They got Lila and Rebecca's mysteries completely right - they've gotten the fire and Wes mysteries completely wrong from what I've seen.

Shows should either do a mystery where they introduce to us a group of suspects, establish them and slowly eliminate them until there's one remaining and is revealed to be the killer (ala Broadchurch except it didn't eliminate anyone until the reveal) or show us exactly what's going on with no mystery element (ala Happy Valley). Trying to mix the two or throwing out a random reveal from no where is crap.