This but Twitter is full of complete and utter morons

Some of them are ridiculous, like there still moaning about it an hour after it's finished :o

Facebook was even worse. I feel so sorry for the digital team tbh

Glad it still hasn't dipped below a million :clap1:

Oh I didn't look much at FB, I swear other shows don't get this amount of moaning :laugh:

People just need to turn it off if they feel the need rant every night.

1.09M excluding +1 (6.8%)

Wow, that's pretty good right?

:clap1:

yeah, should get at least 1.2M with +1

This years series is currently averaging the same overnight average as powertrip was this far in. 100k up on timebomb (1.24m, 1.14m)

I imagine the officials will be quite high this year its doing well considering its up against so much competition with football and Love Island amongst other stuff. Even though its been a mess this year seems so raw and BB5'esque and the headlines its generating is the most a civilian series has had in years with the likes of The Sun actually having exclusive stories of housemates before they entered the house just like back in the day Andrew has made over 100k on newspaper interviews alone so theres major interest and its great to see BB back making headlines. Anyone got the +1 figure yet?

It'll probably be the old reliable 1.2m. One thing that can be said for BB is at least it's consistent

Also what I don't understand is why is Love Island seen as a huge success when it doesn't hit a million viewers yet BB gets well over a million and people complain its not doing well? BB really does have so much scrutiny from complaints for bad behavior when the likes of Geordie Shore and Love Island show actual sex and much more outrageous behavior imo without contestants getting warnings. BB fans are the shows worst enemy, I don't understand why they watch if they get so easily offended. Just sit back and enjoy and if you don't like what you see pick up the remote and watch David Attenborough or something. Its mad how it doesn't rate anywhere near what it used to but is allways the most complained about show every year.

I agree with this. Geordie Shore is regarded as the most successful reality TV show on TV - but gets similar ratings to BB? (BB generally gets higher but is seen as a flop). The thing is, BB never had that big of an audience anyway (5 million was really nothing in 2002/2004) so as it's shed it's audience over the years the figure has got smaller and makes it look bad. The fact is the soaps used to get 14/15 million a night and now get 5-6 million a night and are still regarded as a success even though they've dropped more ratings than BB. I think BB's ratings are healthy for this day and age.

i think the ratings will be better if Marco is evicted this Friday :)

And CBB3 got an average of 4.3 million viewers in 2005 - CBB15 got an average of 3.1 million viewers in 2015. Is a 1 million viewer drop in a decade even that much of a big deal? (I know CBB is higher rated than BB but still is a 3 million viewer drop from BB7 to BB17 even that much - less people are watching TV these days then those days?)

I'd say that the reason Love Island/Geordie Shore are both considered successes is because they're both on digital channels (ITV2/MTV) which have a much lower scope and lower budgets - they're both easily the highest rating shows on their respective channels (not to mention the fact that Geordie Shore is exported to a lot of other countries around the world and Love Island had a very large promotional campaign).

Big Brother could be considered less successful because Channel 5 is a PSB that has a much larger budget and scope than both of the former channels, and it has other shows that rate much higher than Big Brother (The X-Files was reaching up to 4 million viewers when it was on).

I still have no idea how TV ratings are measured.

I think Love Island is as a success this year because last year it's ratings were 3-500k and this year they have literally doubled. And it's on ITV 2.
For Big Brother, a show that averaged 1.6, 1.6, 1.9 & 1.6m viewers over the past 4 years, dropping to 1.4m last year did seem like a fail. But that's why this year should be seen as a real success since it's s back up!

I guess it's because LI is on ITV2 and he audience "reach" is like only like two thirds of C5's audience "reach".

What was the +1 figure for last night?

Big Brother: 0.91m excl +1 (4.3%)
Love Island: 0.73m excl +1 (3.4%)

Was it against the footy last night?

Excl = excluding right?

I've literally just woken up. Yes :joker: