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Brillopad 08-07-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10077177)
Khan is an elected mayor. He wasn't just handpicked by a random panel or whatever, so I don't get how him being mayor can be positive discrimination? Maybe I am just not understanding it all properly, can you explain it to me brillo please? Might be a bit too early for me yet :laugh:

Oh come on with all the PC thinking in our society currently it’s not such a leap that the ‘vote’ was engineered/encouraged in certain circles.

user104658 08-07-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10077181)
Oh come on with all the PC thinking in our society currently it’s not such a leap that the ‘vote’ was engineered/encouraged in certain circles.

...But you cry foul every time someone says the same thing about Brexit, and decry anyone who doesn't like the Brexit result as being "against democracy!!"

Honestly, you need to pick a stance and stop holding such contradictory opinions. I personally do believe that most "democratic" votes these days are socially engineered and manipulated, so I can even agree that it's possible that Khan is where he is because the right people thought it was the right move. BUT if you believe that, you also have to be open to the idea that the "Leave" Brexit result was ALSO engineered and manipulated by certain interested parties / propaganda, and that "remoaners" have a legitimate complaint about the result. Likewise the US presidential result. That's all I'm saying. By all means criticise democracy, but don't then go into other threads on other topics insisting that it's beyond criticism :think:.

Vicky. 08-07-2018 11:29 AM

PC thinking? Erm..ok then :umm2:

Do you have any reason to believe the vote was engineered, and how on earth did 'they' (assuming there is an ominous they...) pull it off?

Brillopad 08-07-2018 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10077183)
...But you cry foul every time someone says the same thing about Brexit, and decry anyone who doesn't like the Brexit result as being "against democracy!!"

Honestly, you need to pick a stance and stop holding such contradictory opinions. I personally do believe that most "democratic" votes these days are socially engineered and manipulated, so I can even agree that it's possible that Khan is where he is because the right people thought it was the right move. BUT if you believe that, you also have to be open to the idea that the "Leave" Brexit result was ALSO engineered and manipulated by certain interested parties / propaganda, and that "remoaners" have a legitimate complaint about the result. Likewise the US presidential result. That's all I'm saying. By all means criticise democracy, but don't then go into other threads on other topics insisting that it's beyond criticism :think:.

Fair point - but the election of the London Major was smaller and less significant than Brexit and I would imagine more manipulateable for a variety of reasons.

In the much less likely scenario that the Brexit vote could have been ‘interferred with’ I would have no feelings for the remainers as I have no doubts, judging by the constant attempts to overturn it, they would have endorsed such actions wholeheartedly if the boot were on the other foot.

However I don’t believe Brexit was engineered - I actually believed it would be the other way round. But I think because people had been pushed too far on certain issues and had had enough - the vote, in part a protest vote, won the day. Still very much a democratic vote! :hee:

Brillopad 08-07-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10077184)
PC thinking? Erm..ok then :umm2:

Do you have any reason to believe the vote was engineered, and how on earth did 'they' (assuming there is an ominous they...) pull it off?

Although I have some understanding of the Why’s Vicky - I have little idea on the How’s - I have no such powers. For those that do I wouldn’t imagine it would be very difficult. But an understanding of one does not preclude you from having an opinion on the other!

Vicky. 08-07-2018 11:58 AM

Hmm I guess not. Just seemed a fairly random accusation. And the PC thinking thing annoyed me, I am probably one of the least politically correct people on here :laugh: I don't really care if my opinions are seen as 'acceptable' or not. And I seem to annoy SJWs an awful lot too, which says I am certainly not 'PC' :D

Brillopad 08-07-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10077214)
Hmm I guess not. Just seemed a fairly random accusation. And the PC thinking thing annoyed me, I am probably one of the least politically correct people on here :laugh: I don't really care if my opinions are seen as 'acceptable' or not. And I seem to annoy SJWs an awful lot too, which says I am certainly not 'PC' :D

But I was referring to those that either are or ohers that, for political, idealistic or even financial reasons, decided it would be an appropriate choice and were in a position to make it happen.

Northern Monkey 08-07-2018 05:41 PM

Tbf London didn’t need positive discrimination to get Sadiq as their poster boy.It’s like the most multicultural city in the world or something.

Brillopad 08-07-2018 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10077704)
Tbf London didn’t need positive discrimination to get Sadiq as their poster boy.It’s like the most multicultural city in the world or something.

Quite!

Kizzy 09-07-2018 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10077704)
Tbf London didn’t need positive discrimination to get Sadiq as their poster boy.It’s like the most multicultural city in the world or something.

Hang on are you saying London isn't white enough for him not to have been elected?

Kazanne 10-07-2018 09:03 AM

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2018/07/1...ar-parliament/

I love it when Piers makes them answer those awkward questions.

chuff me dizzy 10-07-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10079195)
Hang on are you saying London isn't white enough for him not to have been elected?

Yes thats right

chuff me dizzy 10-07-2018 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10080013)
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2018/07/1...ar-parliament/

I love it when Piers makes them answer those awkward questions.

Once again Piers is spot on !! what an arrogant little **** Khan is :rant:

Nicky91 10-07-2018 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10080017)
Once again Piers is spot on !! what an arrogant little **** Khan is :rant:

yes, Khan definitely comes over arrogant to me as well

Matthew. 10-07-2018 09:23 AM

i like Piers Morgan a lot but today i have to say i thought he was unfair on Sadiq Khan. Didn’t let him have a word in edgeways and he seemed quite intimidating if i’m honest

Livia 10-07-2018 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10077704)
Tbf London didn’t need positive discrimination to get Sadiq as their poster boy.It’s like the most multicultural city in the world or something.

True. White indigenous people have been driven out to Essex and other surrounding counties if they want to live in their own communities. Anyone who thinks that isn't true doesn't live in London. My borough, Newham, was the first borough in the country where incomers outnumbered the indigenous people by more than 50%. Now that figure is nearing a massive 90%. The whole white working class culture of east London is dead. A memorial to people who died in the Blitz is regularly defaced with Islamic messages... says it all, really.

When I was a kid it was a mad ethnic mix and I loved it. But it isn't a mix anymore. The only option was to move out because if any white person complained, they'd be called a racist. As I will probably be in replies to this.

kirklancaster 10-07-2018 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10080050)
True. White indigenous people have been driven out to Essex and other surrounding counties if they want to live in their own communities. Anyone who thinks that isn't true doesn't live in London. My borough, Newham, was the first borough in the country where incomers outnumbered the indigenous people by more than 50%. Now that figure is nearing a massive 90%. The whole white working class culture of east London is dead. A memorial to people who died in the Blitz is regularly defaced with Islamic messages... says it all, really.

When I was a kid it was a mad ethnic mix and I loved it. But it isn't a mix anymore. The only option was to move out because if any white person complained, they'd be called a racist. As I will probably be in replies to this.

Is this the 'Usurpation Not Integration' which this old 'Racist', 'Xenophobe', 'Islamophobe', WARNED about in several lengthy posts a few years ago?

chuff me dizzy 10-07-2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10080050)
True. White indigenous people have been driven out to Essex and other surrounding counties if they want to live in their own communities. Anyone who thinks that isn't true doesn't live in London. My borough, Newham, was the first borough in the country where incomers outnumbered the indigenous people by more than 50%. Now that figure is nearing a massive 90%. The whole white working class culture of east London is dead. A memorial to people who died in the Blitz is regularly defaced with Islamic messages... says it all, really.

When I was a kid it was a mad ethnic mix and I loved it. But it isn't a mix anymore. The only option was to move out because if any white person complained, they'd be called a racist. As I will probably be in replies to this.

We have areas in our town that are no go areas for the people born here, the Romanians have taken them over and turn the areas into little Bronx's

kirklancaster 10-07-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10079195)
Hang on are you saying London isn't white enough for him not to have been elected?

London is a 'Foreign' country run by once ethnic 'minorities' for once ethnic 'minorities' and being 'white' or otherwise has NOTHING to do with these facts.

arista 10-07-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10080027)
i like Piers Morgan a lot but today i have to say i thought he was unfair on Sadiq Khan. Didn’t let him have a word in edgeways and he seemed quite intimidating if i’m honest


Sadiq stayed on the show
for 30mins extra.

He got on all all right, in the end
and said he will be back on
GMBHD itv on friday

Matthew. 10-07-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10080081)
Sadiq stayed on the show
for 30mins extra.

He got on all all right, in the end
and said he will be back on
GMBHD itv on friday

yeah i saw that, but in that extra 30 minutes they barely spoke to him and when they did, it was about football

arista 10-07-2018 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10080082)
yeah i saw that, but in that extra 30 minutes they barely spoke to him and when they did, it was about football

And a brief bit on Politics
General election etc.

Nicky91 10-07-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10080061)
London is a 'Foreign' country run by once ethnic 'minorities' for once ethnic 'minorities' and being 'white' or otherwise has NOTHING to do with these facts.

Rotterdam is now also being run by ethnic 'minorities' with a moroccan mayor Aboutaleb, but i quite like him he's decent and he cares about all people who live in his city


i think Khan also done good things, such as keeping the people to stay calm after the manchester terror attacks, the grenfell fire


everyone just has it's good and bad things about them

Crimson Dynamo 10-07-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10080086)
Rotterdam is now also being run by ethnic 'minorities' with a moroccan mayor Aboutaleb, but i quite like him he's decent and he cares about all people who live in his city


i think Khan also done good things, such as keeping the people to stay calm after the manchester terror attacks, the grenfell fire


everyone just has it's good and bad things about them

manchester is not in london :conf:

Cherie 10-07-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10080086)
Rotterdam is now also being run by ethnic 'minorities' with a moroccan mayor Aboutaleb, but i quite like him he's decent and he cares about all people who live in his city


i think Khan also done good things, such as keeping the people to stay calm after the manchester terror attacks, the grenfell fire


everyone just has it's good and bad things about them

I can't say I saw Khan at Grenfell at all, maybe I missed it, and Manchester has its own Mayor.


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