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arista 02-04-2024 12:54 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04...2004555429.jpg

[Rishi Sunak backs JK Rowling's right
to free speech as Scotland's hate
crime laws come into force: PM says
'people should not be criminalised for stating
simple facts on biology' after the author dared
police to arrest her for 'misgendering'

JK Rowling wrote on social media that
a string of trans women were men]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gendering.html

Mystic Mock 02-04-2024 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11433977)
We laugh at North Korea but this is not far off, you can't criticise the government... what do you think of Simon Harris, I watched some of his press confernce yesterday seemed like same old, same old

I don't know if I would compare it with North Korea just yet.

But it's definitely a slippery slope, that anybody in this country that genuinely values freedom of speech, shouldn't be supporting this policy imo.

Mystic Mock 02-04-2024 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11433995)

Who made this graph? Because I'm highly suspicious of their personal bias.

Mystic Mock 02-04-2024 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11436061)
They should ignore all instances of "hate speech".

Correct.

Crimson Dynamo 02-04-2024 10:00 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKJfqCSX...pg&name=medium

Beso 02-04-2024 10:06 AM

I hate speech.

Mystic Mock 02-04-2024 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11436299)

Does India Willoughby wish to become a criminal?:joker:

Crazy comments that are being paraphrased.

Oliver_W 02-04-2024 10:49 AM

Tbh I wish JK would leave India alone - she's not a violent criminal, and she's not trying to take spaces in sports or politics belonging to women.

I don't follow the goss on twitter so maybe India is constantly targeting JK though?

arista 02-04-2024 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11436310)
Does India Willoughby wish to become a criminal?:joker:

Crazy comments that are being paraphrased.


She/He will do anything to get on Live TV

SkyNews & BBC
not wanting her/him to debate
at this time.

bots 02-04-2024 10:56 AM

people, quite rightly, are going to push this hard, testing the police and the snp to the limit. It's a big self destruct button for them in the run up to the GE

Niamh. 02-04-2024 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11436319)
Tbh I wish JK would leave India alone - she's not a violent criminal, and she's not trying to take spaces in sports or politics belonging to women.

I don't follow the goss on twitter so maybe India is constantly targeting JK though?

Seems to be India constantly going after JKR actually, she's usually responding

Crimson Dynamo 02-04-2024 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11436319)
Tbh I wish JK would leave India alone - she's not a violent criminal, and she's not trying to take spaces in sports or politics belonging to women.

I don't follow the goss on twitter so maybe India is constantly targeting JK though?

agree

giving that nasty person way way too much airspace

bots 02-04-2024 11:03 AM

can you imagine the uproar if they throw JKR in jail?

Niamh. 02-04-2024 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11436342)
can you imagine the uproar if they throw JKR in jail?

I think it would be fantastic otpics actually and would really highlight the stupidity of the laws, the whole world would be paying attention

bots 02-04-2024 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11436345)
I think it would be fantastic otpics actually and would really highlight the stupidity of the laws, the whole world would be paying attention

and the thing is, if they let people away with particular speech, then precedents will be set, which will make the law pointless and unenforceable.

Niamh. 02-04-2024 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11436347)
and the thing is, if they let people away with particular speech, then precedents will be set, which will make the law pointless and unenforceable.

I would imagine that they're going to use this "law" to harass people and scare them into being quiet about certain topics

Oliver_W 02-04-2024 11:12 AM

I've not heard of a single person who thinks this is a good idea.

The Scottish authorities were dumb enough to arrest some youtuber for teaching a dog to raise one paw, so why does anyone think they'll behave sensitively with this new law?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11436327)
Seems to be India constantly going after JKR actually, she's usually responding

Then, fair. Don't dish if you can't take.

Niamh. 02-04-2024 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11436352)
I've not heard of a single person who thinks this is a good idea.

The Scottish authorities were dumb enough to arrest some youtuber for teaching a dog to raise one paw, so why does anyone think they'll behave sensitively with this new law?




Then, fair. Don't dish if you can't take.

Yep and like I said they're trying to force that same thing in over here when it's very clearly not wanted either. Over 75% of people who took part in the public consultation said so but the government are sticking their fingers in their ears and pretending they can't hear us

bots 02-04-2024 11:36 AM

the problem is though, the way the scottish parliament is set up, those opposed, don't stand a hope in hell of repealing the law

bots 02-04-2024 11:54 AM

Football pundit Ally McCoist has also given his support to JK Rowling, calling the legislation "madness".

Speaking on TalkSport, external radio, he said he, along with thousands of football fans, will flout the rules during this weekend's Old Firm match between Rangers and Celtic.

The ex-Rangers player said: "I can guarantee you, next Sunday at Ibrox, I, along with 48,000 will be committing a breach of that hate bill in the particular Rangers Celtic game we are all going to."

Mr McCoist did not say which part of the Hate Crime Bill footballs fans were at risk of breaching.

Crimson Dynamo 02-04-2024 12:02 PM

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/resou...?type=og-image
https://www.spectator.co.uk/wp-conte...31.jpeg?w=1024

arista 02-04-2024 02:09 PM

Warning this clip
on a Scottish Stage
The Hate Monster Uses the "C" Word

Not for children


https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/...41518807851045

user104658 02-04-2024 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11436345)
I think it would be fantastic otpics actually and would really highlight the stupidity of the laws, the whole world would be paying attention

I think she might actually be trying for it, for that reason. Harry Potter Money gets you very, very good legal representation and I think she might be trying to be charged, so that she can enter a legal battle with the govt.

user104658 02-04-2024 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11436369)

Mr McCoist did not say which part of the Hate Crime Bill footballs fans were at risk of breaching.

Probably the sectarianism. It might be the part where (some of them :hee: ) get drunk and go home to beat up their families but that seems less likely. They already know no one ever gets meaningfully charged for that.

Niamh. 02-04-2024 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11436485)
I think she might actually be trying for it, for that reason. Harry Potter Money gets you very, very good legal representation and I think she might be trying to be charged, so that she can enter a legal battle with the govt.

They'll target the little folk with no money or media presence probably


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