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joeysteele 20-10-2013 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by James (Post 6443355)
I don't want Scotland to be independent.

I can think of a few reasons, possible negative consequences or unanswered questions.

Would there be an open border with England? Would you need a passport to cross the border?

Would companies be allowed to trade freely with England?

Would Scottish people be able to work or be educated at university freely in England or would there be restrictions?

Would Scotland have its own currency and central bank which would set interest rates?

Would Scotland be able to defend itself?

What would happen to broadcasting - would we still get the BBC?

Above all, the question I would ask is, What is so bad about Britain?

I also think it is a mistake for some to believe that if Scotland was independent it would always have a left or centre-left government just because of the parties it votes for now. The whole political landscape would change and Scotland would be making its own decisions on a range of other issues which could change the way people vote.
I think you raise a lot of issues and valid ones.

However I still believe myself that no way will more than 40% at the very highest vote for independence in next years referendum.

I think it would be bad for the UK overall and also in a lot of ways for Scotland to choose independence.
Being of Scottish ancestry on my Dad's side and having a good number of friends and relatives living all over Scotland, none of them are voting for independence and I just cannot see the Scots wanting to break away completely.

I do believe they warrant better treatment and more respect from the Westminster Govt. and I would hope that will be forthcoming too.

Lee. 20-10-2013 11:24 PM
James, here's a good sight with answers to common questions re independence..

http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index...misinformation

the truth 21-10-2013 12:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by James (Post 6443355)
I don't want Scotland to be independent.

I can think of a few reasons, possible negative consequences or unanswered questions.

Would there be an open border with England? Would you need a passport to cross the border?

Would companies be allowed to trade freely with England?

Would Scottish people be able to work or be educated at university freely in England or would there be restrictions?

Would Scotland have its own currency and central bank which would set interest rates?

Would Scotland be able to defend itself?

What would happen to broadcasting - would we still get the BBC?

Above all, the question I would ask is, What is so bad about Britain?

I also think it is a mistake for some to believe that if Scotland was independent it would always have a left or centre-left government just because of the parties it votes for now. The whole political landscape would change and Scotland would be making its own decisions on a range of other issues which could change the way people vote.
1. open border - yes
2. education is different in Scotland wales and England anyway, they control that in these countries
3. Scotland would still be part of the british armed forces. though they would probably have a few of their own regiments too
4.bbc. probably. totally over rated bloated wasteful organization, that outside the odd wildlife documentary has barely produced a quality show in years. where are the opportunity for writers? what idiot is driving the bbc news agenda? it tells you nothing
5. I doubt theyd go with euro but its complex... it prints its own money , it would still be sterling. I think interest rates would remain under the control of the bank of England.

arista 26-11-2013 12:05 PM
[Independent Scotland would keep sterling, says Alex Salmond
First minister launches blueprint for Scottish independence promising 'a new and better direction for our nation']

Today the Scottish white paper is out


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...s-the--009.jpg


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...s-alex-salmond

fingers 26-11-2013 01:25 PM
Anyone who pays the slightest attention to that fishy pair Salmond & Sturgeon needs their head examined. Punch and Judy spring to mind, but THEY talk more sense than wee fat Eck and his thin lipped cohort.

Livia 26-11-2013 01:34 PM
I think Mr Salmond takes an awful lot for granted...

fingers 26-11-2013 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6505938)
I think Mr Salmond takes an awful lot for granted...
Pie in the Sky is his favourite food.

Livia 26-11-2013 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6505944)
Pie in the Sky is his favourite food.
Well, some kind of pie, obviously......................

fingers 26-11-2013 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6505954)
Well, some kind of pie, obviously......................
The kind and size that Desperate Dan prefers!

http://saffronbunny.files.wordpress....perate_dan.jpg

Nedusa 26-11-2013 04:06 PM
Why would any Scottish person living in Scotland NOT want to see their Country ruled by them.

Who in their right mind after being occupied for over 300 years would NOT want to be finally free of English rule ??

Who in Scotland would actually Vote to continue to be "occupied" ???

I think this is a NO BRAINER...........!!!!!

fingers 26-11-2013 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6506125)
Why would any Scottish person living in Scotland NOT want to see their Country ruled by them.

Who in their right mind after being occupied for over 300 years would NOT want to be finally free of English rule ??

Who in Scotland would actually Vote to continue to be "occupied" ???

I think this is a NO BRAINER...........!!!!!
ME and probably 60-70% of my compatriots!

Nedusa 26-11-2013 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6506132)
ME and probably 60-70% of my compatriots!
Really..........how sad is that !!!!!

Why would so many so called Scotsmen and Scotswomen want to vote to keep being told what to do by a foreign country ??

It makes no sense.....!!!!!

fingers 26-11-2013 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6506140)
Really..........how sad is that !!!!!

Why would so many so called Scotsmen and Scotswomen want to vote to keep being told what to do by a foreign country ??

It makes no sense.....!!!!!
You really have no idea what you are talking about, and I am certainly not going to be drawn into a pointless argument.

Nedusa 26-11-2013 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6506146)
You really have no idea what you are talking about, and I am certainly not going to be drawn into a pointless argument.
I'm sorry..........I think my words are fairly clear and my sentiments felt by millions of Scottish people in Scotland

And to call it a pointless argument is arrogant on your part in the extreme !!!

Or do you hold such a strong argument that it's pointless to even debate it because you'd have to be an idiot not to agree with YOU

Either way your need to offer a little more by way of reply than just a few arrogant sentences.........!!!!

Josy 26-11-2013 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6506140)
Really..........how sad is that !!!!!

Why would so many so called Scotsmen and Scotswomen want to vote to keep being told what to do by a foreign country ??

It makes no sense.....!!!!!
Could the bolded part be any more provocative?

What makes no sense is voting for independence for our country, which if independent would end up a total mess, we would struggle financially, people that depend on benefits and free nhs treatment/prescriptions could potentially suffer, we can't afford to be independent.

The truth is we would be a poor country.

And before anyone mentions the north sea oil, that's hardly a dependable income.

I love being Scottish and I love my country but I want it to remain as part of the UK.

Most people that want independence have been watching too much Braveheart MIO.

arista 26-11-2013 04:42 PM
Good he is getting the younger ones to vote, though

Josy 26-11-2013 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by arista (Post 6506218)
Good he is getting the younger ones to vote, though
It's not good for Scotland, it's dangerous.

arista 26-11-2013 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6506202)
Could the bolded part be any more provocative?

What makes no sense is voting for independence for our country, which if independent would end up a total mess, we would struggle financially, people that depend on benefits and free nhs treatment/prescriptions could potentially suffer, we can't afford to be independent.

The truth is we would be a poor country.

And before anyone mentions the north sea oil, that's hardly a dependable income.

I love being Scottish and I love my country but I want it to remain as part of the UK.

Most people that want independence have been watching too much Braveheart MIO.

You will still be in the UK
but your bills will
will be far less
you will have more Cash

fingers 26-11-2013 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 6506230)
You will still be in the UK
but your bills will
will be far less
you will have more Cash
You don't know what you are talking about, either.

Josy 26-11-2013 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 6506230)
You will still be in the UK
but your bills will
will be far less
you will have more Cash
No we wont have more cash Arista, I have no idea how you come up with that?

We will struggle financially.

arista 26-11-2013 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6506243)
No we wont have more cash Arista, I have no idea how you come up with that?

We will struggle financially.

Ignore that British Propaganda


your bills will all get lower

Josy 26-11-2013 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 6506248)
Ignore that British Propaganda


your bills will all get lower
What propaganda?

And no they wont.

Lee. 26-11-2013 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6506243)
No we wont have more cash Arista, I have no idea how you come up with that?

We will struggle financially.
We wouldn't.. We'd be one of the wealthiest countries on the EU. Even Cameron and Isbourne have been forced to admit it.

There is a very good reason Westminster don't want an independent Scotland..

Lee. 26-11-2013 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6506251)
What propaganda?

And no they wont.
The scaremongering from the Better Together campaign and the BBC

fingers 26-11-2013 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6506255)
We wouldn't.. We'd be one of the wealthiest countries on the EU. Even Cameron and Isbourne have been forced to admit it.

There is a very good reason Westminster don't want an independent Scotland..
Where's all that WEALTH going to appear from?


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