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Johnnyuk123 22-01-2016 07:54 PM

It's gonna be very interesting to see who they choose next as the new James Bond. My money is on a chinese midget with tourretts.

smudgie 22-01-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8451430)
It's gonna be very interesting to see who they choose next as the new James Bond. My money is on a chinese midget with tourretts.

Time we had a Jayne Bond :idc:

Johnnyuk123 22-01-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8451439)
Time we had a Jayne Bond :idc:

But she must be lesbian to tick that box.:cheer2:

smudgie 22-01-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8451440)
But she must be lesbian to tick that box.:cheer2:

Suits me.

Kazanne 22-01-2016 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8451430)
It's gonna be very interesting to see who they choose next as the new James Bond. My money is on a chinese midget with tourretts.

I know the very man who would make an excellent Bond,he's Scottish too.:smug:

Johnnyuk123 22-01-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8451451)
I know the very man who would make an excellent Bond,he's Scottish too.:smug:

He's the wrong colour.

GiRTh 22-01-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8451417)
Charlotte Rampling isn't happy either
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainme...id=binganswers

Well done for finding an interview where she says nothing other than - Perhaps they weren't good enough. The same excuse that was used 10/20/30 years ago :thumbs:

I dont think she's quite got the point.

Z 22-01-2016 08:37 PM

It's a bit ****ty to focus on James Bond. It was written by a white man, writing for white men, about a white man seducing women, firing guns and driving fast cars. The films adapted from that. It is what it is. Hollywood doesn't focus on bringing brand new stories to the forefront, it's more obsessed with franchises for blockbusters, biopics for character transformations and little-guy-facing-adversity type films for the same kind of character transformations that critics love, seeing actors dress up/down and portray a heartbreaking story. I agree that it's unfair that there aren't so many roles for ethnic minorities, but it begs the question, what exactly do we want to see? It would be phoned in to have a black James Bond because of reasons outlined above; it would be better to have original stories, but about what? I think there are some incredible TV producers and actors and actresses who are doing much more to break down racial and gender barriers, and also TV seems to be getting a better budget in general and is becoming more exciting than film anyway... I much prefer investing in a well produced 10 hour long series of something like Game of Thrones or How To Get Away With Murder or Grey's Anatomy or some other huge TV show that will tell a proper story and allow for better character development than a 90 minute long film that lives and dies by its box office takings.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 22-01-2016 09:46 PM

Who is this ho talmbout maybe there weren't enough good black actors, bitch please. Straight outta compton smashed it, Idris and Michael B Jordon. There's no reason why any of those at least couldn't be nominated, specially Michael B when the film was being praised and Stallone was recognized. Wtf is that medicocre film with Steve Carrell. Another wallstreet type with white guys corrupting each other?:sleep: Maybe if we didn't have asswipes like Matt Damon tamlbout blacks in terms of diversity are ok in the casting but not the writers room, things might've been different.

Anaesthesia 22-01-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 8451812)
It's a bit ****ty to focus on James Bond. It was written by a white man, writing for white men, about a white man seducing women, firing guns and driving fast cars. The films adapted from that. It is what it is. Hollywood doesn't focus on bringing brand new stories to the forefront, it's more obsessed with franchises for blockbusters, biopics for character transformations and little-guy-facing-adversity type films for the same kind of character transformations that critics love, seeing actors dress up/down and portray a heartbreaking story. I agree that it's unfair that there aren't so many roles for ethnic minorities, but it begs the question, what exactly do we want to see? It would be phoned in to have a black James Bond because of reasons outlined above; it would be better to have original stories, but about what? I think there are some incredible TV producers and actors and actresses who are doing much more to break down racial and gender barriers, and also TV seems to be getting a better budget in general and is becoming more exciting than film anyway... I much prefer investing in a well produced 10 hour long series of something like Game of Thrones or How To Get Away With Murder or Grey's Anatomy or some other huge TV show that will tell a proper story and allow for better character development than a 90 minute long film that lives and dies by its box office takings.

Beautifully said.

Z 22-01-2016 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaesthesia (Post 8452866)
Beautifully said.

Thanks :) I dunno, I get why there are so many people getting angry about this but I don't think it's a racism issue as such, it's just a general problem with Hollywood becoming stagnant and obsessed with insane budgets in a kind of parody of the Space Race or something. Audiences don't go to the cinema as much as they used to, the whole industry is becoming unsustainable and as such I find it a bit pointless to be trying to break down barriers in an industry that's ready to collapse anyway. Special effects have been done to death and I haven't personally gone to see a superhero film since the last Christopher Nolan Batman came out because the whole genre is exhausted, but that's what Hollywood wants to spend money on - and if not that, it's extending the shelf life of its existing franchises from Pirates of the Caribbean to Shrek... none of these films are made to impress critics, so the very small remaining space for films which critics (i.e. Academy Awards et al) will give consideration to is a narrow playing field regardless of your race. Everyone bemoans Leonardo DiCaprio not having won an award yet but at least he gets casted in these sorts of films on a regular basis.

I hope more film actors bite the bullet and star gunning for TV roles because there are far more exciting shows on TV than there are films I want to see.

Kazanne 22-01-2016 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8451465)
He's the wrong colour.

Who cares,lol

Z 22-01-2016 11:14 PM

I also think that there are minorities who actually never get a chance to feature in Hollywood films unlike African-Americans which might be a bit of a stupid thing to point out but I do think is worth considering - take the film Aloha, it was universally panned for whitewashing its cast and rightly so, but I couldn't name you a single actor other than maybe Dwayne Johnson who's a famous Pacific Islander actor. Lucy Liu is one of a very few East Asian faces in Hollywood. Are there even any Indian subcontinent actors? Arab actors?

Alf 22-01-2016 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 8452949)
I also think that there are minorities who actually never get a chance to feature in Hollywood films unlike African-Americans which might be a bit of a stupid thing to point out but I do think is worth considering - take the film Aloha, it was universally panned for whitewashing its cast and rightly so, but I couldn't name you a single actor other than maybe Dwayne Johnson who's a famous Pacific Islander actor. Lucy Liu is one of a very few East Asian faces in Hollywood. Are there even any Indian subcontinent actors? Arab actors?

Dev Patel played the lead role in the 2008 best film winner Slumdog millionaire

Z 22-01-2016 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8452964)
Dev Patel played the lead role in the 2008 best film winner Slumdog millionaire

Fair point, but then again, that was eight years ago and his career hasn't taken off since then. I'm talking established names - there are none that I can think of right now?

JoshBB 23-01-2016 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8452964)
Dev Patel played the lead role in the 2008 best film winner Slumdog millionaire

:laugh2:

See, when you have to go back 8 years to find an example.. it usually indicates a minority is under-represented. Also it was a movie set in India.. so it makes sense that they would have an Indian actor. Why do they have to do that only for a role that involves poverty?

Why not just have more southasian main characters? Or even just friends of main characters in all movies?

Alf 23-01-2016 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8453126)
:laugh2:

See, when you have to go back 8 years to find an example.. it usually indicates a minority is under-represented. Also it was a movie set in India.. so it makes sense that they would have an Indian actor. Why do they have to do that only for a role that involves poverty?

Why not just have more southasian main characters? Or even just friends of main characters in all movies?

I was just giving an answer to the last part of Zs post.

But yeah let's deny it if it's not what you want to hear, I'm fine with that.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 23-01-2016 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Anaesthesia (Post 8452866)
Beautifully said.

Look at White applauding whitesplaining. It's like all the condescending people listening to a black person that's experienced racism and then preceding to say but that's not racism this is what racism is and then "explains"

Ammi 23-01-2016 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 8452949)
I also think that there are minorities who actually never get a chance to feature in Hollywood films unlike African-Americans which might be a bit of a stupid thing to point out but I do think is worth considering - take the film Aloha, it was universally panned for whitewashing its cast and rightly so, but I couldn't name you a single actor other than maybe Dwayne Johnson who's a famous Pacific Islander actor. Lucy Liu is one of a very few East Asian faces in Hollywood. Are there even any Indian subcontinent actors? Arab actors?

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8452964)
Dev Patel played the lead role in the 2008 best film winner Slumdog millionaire

..yeah Z, obviously it's all ethnic minorities and not just African-Americans..that's really just specifically being highlighted in this because Spike is such a spokesperson in Hollywood for African- Americans so that's where his focus is...but the example that wanna has said with Dev Patel..that was a movie that could have only been cast with Asian actors, I mean there was no choice in that and that's the same with many ethnic minorities...Jackie Chan, oooo we need a kung foo person..?...that type of thing...so Slumdog won an Oscar and from that Oscar..should have brought a diversity roles for many of the actors but did it..?...I can't see that it did, it's kind of a 'where are they now' type thing and yet it was an Oscar winning movie...whereas with many 'typical 'white' movies that could compare, with unknown actors being cast...that would have meant an opening to their career, that big part/opportunity they had been waiting for in Hollywood, not a thank you very much and now the door is closed, maybe you'll get a bit part every now and then....that's how it seems to me anyway...maybe that also happens to actors/actresses who are not ethnic minority as well but compared to the roles cast there, I would say to a much, much lesser degree....

Johnnyuk123 23-01-2016 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8452922)
Who cares,lol

Actually Gerard Butler would make a great Bond.But will Smith's wife would defo kick off if he did.:joker:

Livia 23-01-2016 10:45 AM

Anyone see Ice Cube on the Graham Norton Show? He had an interesting point to make. He said you get lots of accolades in the movie business and didn't seem unduly worried that Straight Outta Compton was only nominated for Best Screenplay. He also said:

"How could you be mad because one other academy or guild or whatever didn't say we're No. 1 … It's crying about not having enough icing on your cake."



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...er-used-858446

Tom4784 23-01-2016 10:45 AM

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The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is promising to double its "women and diverse members" in the wake of the Oscars diversity row.

Academy board members unanimously voted to take "historic" action after Spike Lee, Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith called for a boycott of the 2016 Oscars because no actors or actresses of colour earned nominations.

In an effort to double its diversity among membership, the Academy will launch a campaign to recruit members from under-represented portions of the filmmaking community.

Three new members of the Academy board of governors will be recruited to increase diverse voices on the council as well.

Also, the voting status of members will now be up for ten year renewals – with three successful renewals guaranteeing lifetime voting rights.

Any member who has been nominated for an Oscar has guaranteed lifetime voting rights.

Meanwhile, members who do not meet the criteria of having their voting rights renewed will be moved to emeritus status where they will "enjoy all the privileges of membership except voting", according to the unanimous Academy decision.

All of these changes will go into effect by 2020 – and will have no impact on this year's Academy Awards ceremony.

Academy President Cheryl Boone Isaacs said today: "The Academy is going to lead and not wait for the industry to catch up.

"These new measures regarding governance and voting will have an immediate impact and begin the process of significantly changing our membership composition."

Today's decision comes as Spotlight​'s Mark Ruffalo, nominated for Best Supporting Actor, and The Big Short​'s Adam Kay, nominated for Best Director, as well as previous Oscar winners George Clooney and Lupita Nyong'o have called for greater diversity among Academy voters.​

On the opposite side of the spectrum, Academy Award nominee Charlotte Rampling criticised the Smiths' planned boycott as 'racist against white people'.

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/osc...mbers-by-2020/
I think it's an excellent move, When I heard they were going to make changes I was dreading the thought of them adding a quota which would be worse than snubbing actors of colour altogether since it would just be tokenism. Taking steps to diversify the voters themselves is a good move which could bring a big change to Hollywood itself.

Kizzy 23-01-2016 11:44 AM

:clap1: :clap1:

GiRTh 23-01-2016 02:15 PM

Charlotte Rampling now claims her comments were misinterpreted.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016...misinterpreted

One pf the quickest back tracks ever.

Tom4784 23-01-2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8454040)
Charlotte Rampling now claims her comments were misinterpreted.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016...misinterpreted

One pf the quickest back tracks ever.

Silly bitch.


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