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James 15-03-2017 08:13 PM

Scotland becoming Independent would just put up more barriers for Scotland, and reduce the opportunities for Scots to live, work, trade, be educated etc. across the border.

That's one of several reasons I'm against Indepedence.

Northern Monkey 15-03-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9250842)
I don't doubt they would manage but many of the freebies they take for granted would need to go to pay for managing, its 50 euros a time to go to the GP in Ireland isn't it, you pay for prescriptions, private healthcare, Uni, I think your your taxes are higher and it is an expensive country to live in :tongue:

Yeah some lady on the Daily Politics was saying that if Scotland did vote for independence then it would be "turbo austerity".So i think the free stuff would probably be likely to go.

Kizzy 15-03-2017 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 9250929)
Scotland becoming Independent would just put up more barriers for Scotland, and reduce the opportunities for Scots to live, work, trade, be educated etc. across the border.

That's one of several reasons I'm against Indepedence.

Why would they want to pay £9,000 a year to go to uni here when it's free at home? :/

Northern Monkey 15-03-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9250552)
Nuclear weapons are important though.

When Scotland get attacked they will have nobody

Of course we'd defend Scotland just as we would with any of our allies.We wouldn't all hate each other just because Scotland went independent.Scotland would be our closest ally.

Denver 15-03-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9250937)
Why would they want to pay £9,000 a year to go to uni here when it's free at home? :/

They would not be free though as they would use uni as a source for money

DemolitionRed 15-03-2017 08:42 PM

Scotland already has vast economic wealth and that wealth is built on some very solid foundations. It would be foolish though, to presume that either side wouldn’t have some major market volatility. Without currency union with the UK, interest rates on borrowing would likely double for Scotland and the UK pound would almost certainly fall to an all time low. Scotland would probably have to make its own free floating currency and that could cause problems re-joining the EU. And what about the UK’s existing debt. How would it be divided between in independent Scotland and England. If Scotland walked away from its debt, which its unlikely to do as that would ensure it wouldn’t get into the EU, England could be seriously in the sh*t
Would Scotland have to regulate its own FSI and its own stock market?
Would pensions still be honoured in an independent Scotland?
So many questions need to be answered before anyone can make an informed vote.

Edited to add: someone on here suggested that the UK subsidizes Scotland. Why would that be when the Scots are well ahead of Britain in biotechnology and renewable energy. North Sea oil alone is worth well over £1 trillion. On top of that the Scots generate (per head) a lot more tax than the Brits and have done for over 30 years. Scotland has paid billions in UK debt interest that Scotland didn’t need. Clearly, Scotland has been subsidising Westminster and not the other way round.

Kizzy 15-03-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9250949)
They would not be free though as they would use uni as a source for money

They already do if you're not Scottish obv... What makes you think they will start charging the Scots?

Denver 15-03-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9250999)
They already do if you're not Scottish obv... What makes you think they will start charging the Scots?

Because they will need to generate more money and Taxes, Medical and educational fees are the easiest

Greg! 15-03-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9250933)
Yeah some lady on the Daily Politics was saying that if Scotland did vote for independence then it would be "turbo austerity".So i think the free stuff would probably be likely to go.

Was it Kezia dugdale by any chance bc that's her catchphrase and she says that all the time. UGH she annoys me to no end

user104658 15-03-2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9250933)
Yeah some lady on the Daily Politics was saying that if Scotland did vote for independence then it would be "turbo austerity".So i think the free stuff would probably be likely to go.

:omgno: Well this has caused me to completely rethink everything! I thought I had a pretty good grasp on it, but I hadn't realised that the all-knowing "some lady on Daily Politics" was saying that there would be extreme austerity measures :worry:. That is concerning.

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9250949)
They would not be free though as they would use uni as a source for money

What? Who? The government? The government would use Universities - which are NOT government owned - as a "source for money"? :facepalm: I swear this place gets worse by the day.

Denver 15-03-2017 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9251091)
:omgno: Well this has caused me to completely rethink everything! I thought I had a pretty good grasp on it, but I hadn't realised that the all-knowing "some lady on Daily Politics" was saying that there would be extreme austerity measures :worry:. That is concerning.



What? Who? The government? The government would use Universities - which are NOT government owned - as a "source for money"? :facepalm: I swear this place gets worse by the day.

The government are allowed to put a price on the costs of going to Uni why do you think the British government make them pay

You think the government doesnt see part of the money from Uni tuition?

Kizzy 15-03-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9251002)
Because they will need to generate more money and Taxes, Medical and educational fees are the easiest

If Scotland was going to follow the English model to make a fast buck don't you think they'd have done it by now?

Denver 15-03-2017 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9251101)
If Scotland was going to follow the English model to make a fast buck don't you think they'd have done it by now?

Well they have a clueless bitch in charge

user104658 15-03-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9251092)
The government are allowed to put a price on the costs of going to Uni

No they don't. They can set a cap on how much Universities are allowed to charge. The Universities themselves can charge whatever they want.

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why do you think the British government make them pay
They don't.

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You think the government doesnt see part of the money from Uni tuition?
They DON'T

user104658 15-03-2017 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9251102)
Well they have a clueless bitch in charge

Says the guy who thinks the government are raking it in from University tuition fees :idc:.

jaxie 15-03-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9250772)
Ireland is a similar sized and populated country and manage so why wouldnt Scotland? Scotland is actually a bit bigger :shrug:

With the utmost respect to you, I don't think Ireland even has a voice in the EU after Lisbon. It was also one of the reasons I wanted to leave. Ireland is one of the reasons I think Scotland's quest for Independence and EU love in are a really bad choice.

Denver 15-03-2017 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9251106)
Says the guy who thinks the government are raking it in from University tuition fees :idc:.

Dont try and bait me like you do with everyone else as it wont work

Kizzy 15-03-2017 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9251102)
Well they have a clueless bitch in charge

And England doesn't?... :joker:

Denver 15-03-2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9251115)
And England doesn't?... :joker:

Theresa has yet to make many promises that she will fail to deliver.

Also who calls 2 once in a lifetime referendums in the space of a 3 or 4 years

user104658 15-03-2017 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9251114)
Dont try and bait me like you do with everyone else as it wont work

Bait you into what?

Denver 15-03-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9251119)
Bait you into what?

To say things to you so you can hit the report button.

Oh i know all about the games

user104658 15-03-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9251122)
To say things to you so you can hit the report button.

Oh i know all about the games

I don't report posts. :shrug:

Kizzy 15-03-2017 10:40 PM

I'll do it for you if you're scared TS :)

DemolitionRed 16-03-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9251117)
Theresa has yet to make many promises that she will fail to deliver.

Also who calls 2 once in a lifetime referendums in the space of a 3 or 4 years

A person who has the perfect opportunity to do so?

Cherie 16-03-2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9251387)
A person who has the perfect opportunity to do so?

What's perfect about it, they have basically gone back on their "once in a generation" claim as well alienating a lot of the voters who voted No just under 3 years ago, as a leave voter I'm surprised you think it's a good idea to stick with the EU in all honesty


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