Has anyone got a link to the new video of the original fire, the one bbc just played?

Oh ok ty

As for the sprinkler system: Like I said in my following post, all these safety systems are only any good if they have been maintained and by the sound of things, no fire assistance was being maintained in this tower block.

And funeral costs, extra travel expense for school or work tthe families occur will come from a seperate fund.

TM is such an angel.

I'm happy she is doing all she can to help these poor people.

Death count is now 70 !

Fair point

https://youtu.be/DEKik5_987g

That's dreadful!!!

They must be getting much further into the building for the figure to increase so much today.

Are you sure? I've heard 70 being floated around as a figure for the number of people missing, but not confirmed dead?

I don't mean to be harsh but at this point, if they are still missing and were definitely inside, then they are dead.

Well sure, that's likely, just haven't seen it announced as a confirmed toll anywhere.

At least 70 dead and missing is how they worded it.

I doubt the structure is anywhere near safe enough for them to be properly searching yet... Sadly I expect there to be quite a few more than 70 dead.

I don't really know what to say about this thread to be honest. Watching it descend into the same tribal bickering as every other thread. Just totally ****ing wrong. That doesn't apply to everyone but it does apply equally to all sides. Gobsmacked.

Yes she is a good Christian woman, it really showed when she avoided the commoners when she eventually turned up to see the tower..

:umm2:

Silly women :fist:

Lily does have a point. Keeping it on 17 when it's closer to 100 is ridiculous. Including the missing ones, who at this point are clearly dead.

yes i wish we had a candle lit vigil instead and we all just typed "my thoughts and prayers are with the families, RIP" 100 times a day



of course your posts have been exemplary as i am sure you already have recognised yourself...

Her point isn't exclusive to her though. She is pushing it to suit her own Labourtine agenda. She's tweeting about the EDL now :shrug:

No matter how sarcastic you want to be about it, the number of people using this as a points scoring exercise in the same old tired political battles as every other thread... is repulsive.

yes like when i pointed out about sub-letting (which all media have written about today) and you tried to make it political...

as you say

repulsive

:facepalm:

You're not going to goad me into getting into it here LT. Carry on it you must, I'm 100% done with this thread. It's only going to get worse.

If reports are true 2 quid a square meter more would have got a fire resistant cladding at a cost of 5 grand for the block ..s you are spending 9 million but you can't find 5k?

The residents of Kensington have united in their grief and anger, my thoughts are with them and I hope both they and the victims get justice.

do you think this tower is in danger

:think:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ve-market.html

yes, thank goodness you have not been constantly posting in it since it was made..