Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9826934)

Ann is the topic of discussion as she is on big brother. The very purpose of this forum.

Another basic fact you're either not understanding or purposely ignoring.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9827105)

Maybe some people just respect other people have the right to THEIR opinion. It doesn't mean we agree with it necessarily.
This is a democratic country...we are all entitled to a ****ing opinion...Ann has said nothing wrong but she clearly feels uncomfortable around certain behaviour between 2 men. She doesn't care what people do in private but personally finds it hard to watch in public. She has every right to feel that way...

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9827129)

I fully understand the topic of the discussion and do not purposely ignore.

When you comment on what I actually posted about, you will get a reply.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9827142)

Why would I comment on what you posted when it isn't on topic.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9827121)

I found it weird that there was a rumour Jack called Shilpa a "p..." ,surely the idiot would of been removed if it was true?? :suspect: . There was something uncomfortable with the way they treated Shilpa ,and even if people deny racism it DIDN'T look good

Even if Jade forgot her name how TF do you mix popadom up with Shilpa, even if she was joking :crazy: .

That's like IF Shilpa called her "rice" as a joke , literally looks stupid !! .And obviously it will seem racist saying popadum as Shilpa is Indian .

Plus Danielle was ignorant AF and said Shilpa can't speak English properly, Jo sat on her arse and laughed like a sheep .

I remember when Maxwell did something similar about Kemal BB6 but he got away with it as a joke by saying Kebab instead of Kemal,but that could be seen as racist as Kemal was Turkish. But I think he was just taking the Pee out his name as Maxwell was a foul pig anyway .

Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 9827067)

I always remember that year of CBB with Jade shilpa etc we all will..

I will never forget Jermaine calling Jade & family 'white trash' there was no outrage for that though was it acceptable.. no but it happened

RIP Jade

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9827144)

It was, even if you didn't think so.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9827145)

Jade didn't get her name mixed up. She purposely said poppadom as a joke because she didn't know her surname. Hence her and Danielle laughing after she said it.

But you're right. In isolation those comments aren't worth anything. Just as Maxwell's comment and just as Anthony's comment to Derek "Malteser head" but placed in the context of cbb5 it's not a good look.

Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9827114)

I am not telling her not to have an opinion. You should respect my right to criticize her then since that is my opinion :nono:

Seems like a lot of the people that pull the "it's just her opinion!!!" card don't realize that I can also have an opinion about her opinion. Right to an opinion doesn't mean right to say what you want without being criticized.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9827148)

The ONLY racism that series ,But it was against white people who dont matter ,the last years Jade had were ruined by lies ,like the lies still being said on here and other media.........years she should have enjoyed with her boys

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9827149)

Tory MPs are not the topic of discussion. Ann Widdecombe is.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9827176)

Anthony got away with "Maltese head" as it was a daft comment when they were arguing .
Anthony was like a mentally challenged child most the time. But with Shilpa it was non stop that's why people said it's bullying and racism .

And the argument about 'white trash" was clearly fuelled as a retaliation ,but I find that daft as well especially when white people say especially white Americans say "white trash" . But again it's not as bad as other stuff that could of been used .

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9827187)

Because the vote in Parliament has been mentioned umpteen times by umpteen posters, those who voted and in what numbers becomes relevant.

It was not just Tory MPs, it was across the board.

176 MPs voted against gay marriage, not just Ann Widdecome.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9827183)

You are not just critising her though you are critising fans that are agreeing with her right to have an opinion...which you agree she should have??:shrug:

Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9827193)

No I just think most of her fans are being disingenuous. I am criticizing them for being cowardly. It's clear many agree with her views but they are not brave enough to say that, so they hide behind the usual facade of liking her because "she tells it like it is."

Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9827193)

No I just think most of her fans are being disingenuous. I am criticizing them for being cowardly. It's clear many agree with her views but they are not brave enough to say that, so they hide behind the usual facade of liking her because "she tells it like it is."

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9827192)

Yes. But, for the third time, none of those are currently in CBB and the topic of this forums discussion. Ann Widdecombe is.

Why on earth would we be discussing any of the others?

Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9827193)

No I just think most of her fans are being disingenuous. I am criticizing them for being cowardly. It's clear many agree with her views but they are not brave enough to say that, so they hide behind the usual facade of liking her because "she tells it like it is."

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9827208)

Because they were there when Ann voted.

You just want to blame her but there are 175 others as well. Your silence about these other MPs is deafening.

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9827202)

You can say what you like, it doesn't mean it is true. How many times have you heard, I do not support her views but I support her right to express it within the law.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9827204)

Im an Ann fan and far from cowardly, i defend her and everyones right to their own minds, but you seem to think you've a right to change her mind? No one has that right

Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9827193)

No I just think most of her fans are being disingenuous. I am criticizing them for being cowardly. It's clear many agree with her views but they are not brave enough to say that, so they hide behind the usual facade of liking her because "she tells it like it is."

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9827212)

People are debating whether or not they believe Ann is homophobic or holds homophobic views.

Stop pretending anyone is trying to change her mind or stifle her right to an opinion. Not one single person had done that.

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9827208)

Because they were there when Ann voted.

You just want to blame her but there are 175 others as well. Your silence about these other MPs is deafening.