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arista 11-07-2021 11:28 PM

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Alf 11-07-2021 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071793)
Can we all agree Harry Kane is so overrated? Just as he does for club he fails to turn up against the big boys if I was City thinking of paying £150m id be worried about that

First half, Harry Kane was the best player on the pitch. Winning everything he was. Headers, free-kicks, blocks. Put a great shift in.

He has to be compared in the same bracket as all the great English forwards.

In my time there's been five World class forwards

Lineker, Shearer, Owen, Rooney and Kane would be the fifth.

arista 11-07-2021 11:30 PM

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arista 11-07-2021 11:31 PM

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Alf 11-07-2021 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11071794)
He is going to Chelsea to pair up with Mount

You are a shrewd cookie on the football Cherie, or are you just observent?

Zizu 11-07-2021 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071762)
If it weren't for Southgate we would still be losing to teams like Iceland.


Instead of drawing with Scotland..


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Zizu 11-07-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071767)
There are so many better more qualified managers our there who would use the talents of the players well yet they only want yes men I charge


Exactly

Brendon Rogers for one


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MTVN 11-07-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11071803)

Why do they always go for such stupid headlines

A lot of us are hurting ffs

arista 11-07-2021 11:33 PM




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Alf 11-07-2021 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071795)
I agree.

I know that some people will think that I'm being biased because I'm a Blues fan, but I honestly think that he didn't do much all tournament.

I get Villa fans hyping him up, but I'm genuinely curious what other clubs fans are seeing in him.

Having Grealish on the bench is the equivalent to Bobby Robson having Gazza on the bench in Italia 90, it's unthinkable.

I'm not saying Grealish is as good as Gazza, but he is considered by most our most talented player.

arista 11-07-2021 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11071809)
Why do they always go for such stupid headlines

A lot of us are hurting ffs



Yes
thats how they sell a few

Zizu 11-07-2021 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071777)
Maybe he was scared that England would lose in normal time if Grealish was brought on earlier?

Also Italy weren't gonna just let us start attacking in their half, maybe they were better as a team than us? Italy's not the kinda team where Southgate/England can just click their fingers and start dominating Italy, whether Grealish was on or not.

Btw Grealish didn't do anything when he came on anyway, it feels like the Media's spreading this Myth that Grealish was gonna be our lord and saviour, but what did he honestly do this tournament?


We weren’t able to get the ball to Grealish for his first ten minutes as the midfield lacks creativity.. he did go through a short period of success but then he was stamped on which sadly slowed him down


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arista 11-07-2021 11:36 PM




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Mystic Mock 11-07-2021 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11071807)
Instead of drawing with Scotland..


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Imo that's an off game under Southgate.

Because let's face it the rest of the Tournament weren't exactly like that for us, especially compared to the last Euros where we were bad in nearly every match.

Alf 11-07-2021 11:37 PM

I've waited my all life for a night like this and I'm not gonna waste it just because we lost. I'm drinking until breakfast time.

Zizu 11-07-2021 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11071779)
Been reminding everyone tonight that this is just the Euros - it's not the World Cup which is truly the greatest tournament on earth

Already can't wait for next winter


Jesus ... can you imagine a Southgate mis-managed team playing Brazil or Argentina !!!


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MTVN 11-07-2021 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071816)
I've waited my all life for a night like this and I'm not gonna waste it just because we lost. I'm drinking until breakfast time.

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Zizu 11-07-2021 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11071781)
Yep I really don’t get the whole Grealish can save this narrative...where was he for the pens :idc:


Well for one thing he was limping slightly at the end plus he hasn’t taken a penalty for two years and he missed that one soooooooll


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MTVN 11-07-2021 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11071817)
Jesus ... can you imagine a Southgate mis-managed team playing Brazil or Argentina !!!


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Pfft like we have anything to fear

Can't wait to batter them both

Zizu 11-07-2021 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071795)
I agree.

I know that some people will think that I'm being biased because I'm a Blues fan, but I honestly think that he didn't do much all tournament.

I get Villa fans hyping him up, but I'm genuinely curious what other clubs fans are seeing in him.


He started one game and lasted about 60 minutes then came on for 20 minutes in three games .. now considering it takes ten minutes to get used to the pace of the game ...20 minutes isn’t long enough


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Zizu 11-07-2021 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071811)
Having Grealish on the bench is the equivalent to Bobby Robson having Gazza on the bench in Italia 90, it's unthinkable.

I'm not saying Grealish is as good as Gazza, but he is considered by most our most talented player.


Exactly.. even Jose was bemused that Grealish hasn’t started every game


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Zizu 11-07-2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11071820)
Pfft like we have anything to fear

Can't wait to batter them both


We couldn’t even batter an ageing Denmark team who were without their best player and were down to ten , leg weary men


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Mystic Mock 11-07-2021 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071811)
Having Grealish on the bench is the equivalent to Bobby Robson having Gazza on the bench in Italia 90, it's unthinkable.

I'm not saying Grealish is as good as Gazza, but he is considered by most our most talented player.

I honestly don't see it, imo he is a decent player that the Media are trying to blow up into the English version of Messi, it's embarrassing imo.

Every time I watch Grealish I keep waiting for him to do something that makes me see him as a special player, but I honestly haven't seen it yet.

Imo Villa's only world class player they've got at the moment imo is Martinez as he is a fantastic Goalkeeper that I honestly wish we'd snapped up whilst he was struggling to become Arsenal's number one. Players like Grealish, Mings, Konsa, El Ghazi, and McGinn I see as the grade below, and controversially I just don't rate Ross Barkley at all for any Premier League team, but that's just me personally.

Alf 11-07-2021 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11071824)
Exactly.. even Jose was bemused that Grealish hasn’t started every game


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It's not good for the lads confidence when the manager doesn't trust him. Let the lad play and show his ability.


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