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Nicky91 27-04-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11284525)
They did coexist until the T & Q in the LGBTQ community wanted special treatment just for being 'trans'. Plus it's given an open door for anyone pretending to be trans ,to cross dressers , to drag queens , to predators to take advantage of the system. And why are all those things now lumped under the 'trans' label .

I have a question Liam ...where do non binary people go ? . If they don't identify as either then which space do they use ?.

that is what the + is for in LGBTQ+

they don't identify with the he/him or she/her tags, more like in ''they/them'' tags

Nicky91 27-04-2023 01:56 PM

one of our presenters is non binary, whom has a very popular outdoors talk show called Boerderij Van Dorst (The Farm Van Dorst)

Raven Van Dorst, first Ryanne ex-girlfriend of Christina Curry, daughter of Patricia Paay, Adam Curry

GoldHeart 27-04-2023 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11284528)
that is what the + is for in LGBTQ+

they don't identify with the he/him or she/her tags, more like in ''they/them'' tags

That didn't answer my question as for where do they go when it comes to bathrooms & changing rooms etc .

Nicky91 27-04-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11284534)
That didn't answer my question as for where do they go when it comes to bathrooms & changing rooms etc .

fair enough, i also would like to know that

Crimson Dynamo 27-04-2023 02:22 PM

Facts dont care about your feelings
 

Oliver_W 27-04-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11284511)
there is no reason whatsoever why trans rights and women’s rights can’t coexist peacefully

But they literally contradict one another. Transwomen being legally allowed to use women's spaces negates women's rights to female-only spaces.

Only one set of rights can be acknowledged.

GoldHeart 27-04-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11284562)
But they literally contradict one another. Transwomen being legally allowed to use women's spaces negates women's rights to female-only spaces.

Only one set of rights can be acknowledged.

Oliver I think 10 years ago trans women may or may not have shared the same spaces as me ,but I wouldn't have been aware of it ....as they would have just got on privately with their own business. Plus back then they were just a small percentage of people.

But now everyone is calling themselves trans which Liam doesn't understand. And there's people taking advantage of the loopholes.

Oliver_W 27-04-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11284572)
Oliver I think 10 years ago trans women may or may not have shared the same spaces as me ,but I wouldn't have been aware of it ....as they would have just got on privately with their own business. Plus back then they were just a small percentage of people.

But now everyone is calling themselves trans which Liam doesn't understand. And there's people taking advantage of the loopholes.

Well even then they were infringing on your rights, even if you weren't aware it was happening

GoldHeart 27-04-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11284576)
Well even then they were infringing on your rights, even if you weren't aware it was happening

The point is though it wasn't an issue as those trans women would have been a very small minority and there was more consideration ( if they shared my space, there's no way of knowing) , things have vastly changed now and people are abusing loopholes,and being selfish. And the whole self ID is a mess.

Mystic Mock 27-04-2023 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11284393)
that was in Scotland and although we could see his full face he was never arrested or charged

And that's wrong imo.

Just like those executioner Tweets that Liam has highlighted is also wrong and both occasions should lead to arrests.

People on both sides need to seriously calm down when it's reaching that level, especially when a lot of the issues that are happening are being encouraged by the Media, and the Government not wanting to reach a compromise that keeps both sides happy.

Mystic Mock 27-04-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11284501)
People went into the public gallery (legally) and protested the silencing of a trans person, democratically elected to represent her constituents, because she pushed back against anti-trans bills

Sadly America isn't as Democratic as it likes to pretend to be.

Cherie 28-04-2023 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11284678)
Sadly America isn't as Democratic as it likes to pretend to be.

When Nicola Sturgeon was presenting her Gender Recognition Reform bill she refused to take questions from the audience and had a woman removed for daring to wear a coloured scarf in the colours of the sufragettes

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....eform-28493286

Mystic Mock 28-04-2023 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11284713)
When Nicola Sturgeon was presenting her Gender Recognition Reform bill she refused to take questions from the audience and had a woman removed for daring to wear a coloured scarf in the colours of the sufragettes

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....eform-28493286

Tbh that doesn't surprise me as the UK countries aren't much better than America for fake democracy.

Cherie 28-04-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11284724)
Tbh that doesn't surprise me as the UK countries aren't much better than America for fake democracy.

It should also be noted Mock that women have lost their jobs for daring to raise the gaping loopholes in self ID and its impact on women, Katherine Stock being a case in point, yet there was no empathy from the trans activists, trans women and the LGBT community have lost their greatest allies who have stood with them for decades as they threw women under the bus so sorry not sorry that this trans woman has been de platformed because what goes round comes round I am afraid

GoldHeart 28-04-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11284713)
When Nicola Sturgeon was presenting her Gender Recognition Reform bill she refused to take questions from the audience and had a woman removed for daring to wear a coloured scarf in the colours of the sufragettes

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....eform-28493286

I didn't know Sturgeon did that ,my goodness...she really was a clown . She should have resigned ages ago.

Crimson Dynamo 28-04-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11284482)


Very illuminating twitter thread about this quite disturbed person and background - worrying to say the least..


Mystic Mock 28-04-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11284727)
It should also be noted Mock that women have lost their jobs for daring to raise the gaping loopholes in self ID and its impact on women, Katherine Stock being a case in point, yet there was no empathy from the trans activists, trans women and the LGBT community have lost their greatest allies who have stood with them for decades as they threw women under the bus so sorry not sorry that this trans woman has been de platformed because what goes round comes round I am afraid

I don't support either situation happening.

The one thing that we all should agree on is that people should be allowed to say anything that they like, as long as it's not threatening or harassment.

Crimson Dynamo 29-04-2023 07:38 AM

They say good comedy is rooted in truth

Cherie 29-04-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11285031)
They say good comedy is rooted in truth

:joker: sums it up

Cherie 29-04-2023 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11284919)
I don't support either situation happening.

The one thing that we all should agree on is that people should be allowed to say anything that they like, as long as it's not threatening or harassment.

I know you dont Mock, but too many people are very happy to see women lose their platforms, but are not so happy when the boot is on the other foot

arista 29-04-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11285031)
They say good comedy is rooted in truth


Clever Cartoon Family Guy

Crimson Dynamo 30-04-2023 05:15 PM

Lets hope the Conservative right give this brave trans woman the space to breath and exist :fc:


Alf 30-04-2023 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11285441)
Lets hope the Conservative right give this brave trans woman the space to breath and exist :fc:


Well done her, she's so brave.

Crimson Dynamo 01-05-2023 02:00 PM

Good article
 

Crimson Dynamo 01-05-2023 06:14 PM



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