I think you have a point.

While the comments were homophobic, I don’t think Mickey is homophobic, I think he’s ignorant and actually I don’t think it was rooted in homophobia but I do think it was probably rooted in some kind of mix of lack of social skills, sexism and arrogance in that he’s probably used his fame throughout life to obtain what he wants and so the idea a woman wouldn’t give him the time of day was unfamiliar to him.

The “tie you up” comment is indicative of a bruised ego.

Yes, because the current climate of woke liberalism plays a part and can't be separated out. I'm not going to ignore talking about it because it offends.


If you only agree in theory then you don't actually agree at all.

Our own judgement and interpretation of intention and context is all we have. We all make judgements on those things every day and I trust my reading of a situation. I am always going to trust my own judgement on these things over an alternative reality dictated to me by others.

Again, you are comparing as if it's some kind of victimhood competition.

I have said from the start that LGBT+ issues are as important.


I have never said that at all. That definitely is not a word that I would choose to use and I have not defended Mickey using it. But, in the end it's just a single word and only has the power over you that you give it. In the end offence isn't given, it's taken.

I wouldn't have used 'queer' a few years ago either until it was re-appropriated, so who knows in the future. It's all ultimately about context and intent. Even JoJo understands that.

Yes, but that 3% has a vastly disproportionate loud voice and influence and has the backing of both the State and the Corporate world.

Look, I am not here to defend the radicalised right at all... I have explained why idiots like Tate have emerged, I am not here to say that's a good thing. I do not think that's it's a good thing, tbc.

I dislike the radical right as much as I dislike the radical left. Both are full of nutters.

I understand. Thank you for staying civil and taking the time to express your views. We might not have arrived at an agreement but that's ok :)

Yeah, the 'tie you up' stuff was what I found most over the line in all honesty.

I do think that it was Mickey attempting banter with JoJo but I also think it was clumsy, ill judged, and inappropriate when directed at someone that doesn't know him or his intentions well.

But, yeah, JoJo has made peace with it and moved on and she's the one in there with him who sees the most of him, so I think I am happy to move on as well.

I am very impressed with her in all honesty.