Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6590748)

Choosing to marry a man isn't the same as choosing to be turned on by men.



Again, making a conscious decision and saying "I'm straight" is entirely different from choosing what gives you an erection or turns you on.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6590752)

I disagree, sure you could sleep with someone of the same sex just like you could sleep with someone of the opposite sex who isn't attractive to you. Sex is Sex but you can't change your sexuality.

Simply saying that you're straight/gay/bi is different to actually being any of those things.

Originally Posted by Jemal (Post 6590751)

But mate, your still choosing..
Lie or no lie you are choosing.

Let me use you as an example, dont take offence to this but just a harmless example.
You could be straight right now because you choose not to be gay.
True or false.
Either way you choose your sexuality because if you want to be gay you can bloody be gay? If you choose not to be gay, you choose to go for girls and now especially if you like both sex's you CHOOSE to be bloody bisexual.

What people are getting mixed up is the feelings. You dont choose your feelings of course but you choose your sexuality, lie or not, that is the truth.

Originally Posted by Jemal (Post 6590751)

But mate, your still choosing..
Lie or no lie you are choosing.

Let me use you as an example, dont take offence to this but just a harmless example.
You could be straight right now because you choose not to be gay.
True or false.
Either way you choose your sexuality because if you want to be gay you can bloody be gay? If you choose not to be gay, you choose to go for girls and now especially if you like both sex's you CHOOSE to be bloody bisexual.

What people are getting mixed up is the feelings. You dont choose your feelings of course but you choose your sexuality, lie or not, that is the truth.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6590752)

I disagree, sure you could sleep with someone of the same sex just like you could sleep with someone of the opposite sex who isn't attractive to you. Sex is Sex but you can't change your sexuality.

Simply saying that you're straight/gay/bi is different to actually being any of those things.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 6590764)

This is where people get confused.
Being gay is being attracted too the same sex
A gay person can choose too sleep with the opposite sex, but they cannot choose too be straight

Originally Posted by Jemal (Post 6590751)

But mate, your still choosing..
Lie or no lie you are choosing.

Let me use you as an example, dont take offence to this but just a harmless example.
You could be straight right now because you choose not to be gay.
True or false?
Either way you choose your sexuality because if you want to be gay you can bloody be gay? If you choose not to be gay, you choose to go for girls and now especially if you like both sex's you CHOOSE to be bloody bisexual.

What people are getting mixed up is the feelings. You dont choose your feelings of course but you choose your sexuality, lie or not, that is the truth.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590744)

who are you to say who speaks for the gay community? who are you to judge other peoples choices and behaviour? youre being as judgemental as those who criticize gay people now. ps why are you allowed an opinion on this matter and evander isnt?

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590755)

This is what annoys me. A lot of younger gays (sorry to generalise here) seem to think that we should all think the same and if we don't then we must be ignorant and/or support homophobia.

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6590761)

When did i say Evander isn't ?
I said in my first post on the subject that he IS entitled to his opinion but that i disagree strongly with it.
So you're saying that nobody is allowed to comment on anything unless they're prepared to write a complete thesis on the subject are you ? Like you do you mean........:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by subliminal (Post 6590779)

Supposing someone turned to a fellow housemate and expressed all of those thoughts - comparing gay people to being 'handicapped' - 'a choice' - and something that should be 'fixed' etc - but about black people instead?

What do you think the outcome of that conversation would have been?

So please explain why it is any more acceptable to say those things about gay people?

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590773)

What about those who CHOSE to get married to the opposite sex, have children by them ?

Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590765)

If it was as simple as that do you think gay people would open themselves up to ignorance and abuse if they could just choose to be straight?

Originally Posted by Jemal (Post 6590751)

But mate, your still choosing..
Lie or no lie you are choosing.

Let me use you as an example, dont take offence to this but just a harmless example.
You could be straight right now because you choose not to be gay.
True or false?
Either way you choose your sexuality because if you want to be gay you can bloody be gay? If you choose not to be gay, you choose to go for girls and now especially if you like both sex's you CHOOSE to be bloody bisexual.

What people are getting mixed up is the feelings. You dont choose your feelings of course but you choose your sexuality, lie or not, that is the truth.

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6590775)

oh cut that crap, how can someone choose to be sexually attracted to a gender they originally aren't :crazy: it's impossible to be able to do that.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590773)

What about those who CHOSE to get married to the opposite sex, have children by them ?

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590787)

Those days are long gone ,you are talking of years ago ,when (as Peter Kay so rightly says) Your Mother would never have said the word lesbian ,they said it under their breath ,those day are long gone ,as someone said ^^ its not frowned upon now, its the "In thing" due to shows like BB ,who over the years the vast majority of gay housemates have been the BEST housemates

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6590790)

you don't choose your sexuality but it's your choice on whether you pursue on it or not

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 6590786)

What gay/bi people who marry the opposite sex? They are either bi or in denial & want too be normal, they likely have feeling for the other half, just no attraction

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590773)

What about those who CHOSE to get married to the opposite sex, have children by them ?

Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590793)

The ignorance never stops

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590787)

Those days are long gone ,you are talking of years ago ,when (as Peter Kay so rightly says) Your Mother would never have said the word lesbian ,they said it under their breath ,those day are long gone ,as someone said ^^ its not frowned upon now, its the "In thing" due to shows like BB ,who over the years the vast majority of gay housemates have been the BEST housemates

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6590799)

But if they're gay to start with they'll still be gay if they're married to someone of the opposite sex and have children by them.
I think 'choose' is too loose a term in that case.
Sexuality has been proved to be determined by x and y chromosomes and you can't change that. You can choose to live a certain way but that doesn't mean you can choose to change your pre-determined sexuality.