I completely disagree and my view still stands too. We must not tie our hands behind our backs when taking action against these murderers

How would I know, that would make me more informed than the majority of the commons wouldn't it?...
You seem to think we're at war, in which case there would be no question of extending strikes, the fact is we're not...yet.
If anything can be don't to avoid this then that would be better, it can't be suggested though that my opinion against strikes is invalid as I don't have all the answers to this nihilistic debate.

What Cameron said about people supporting terrorists if you don't want the bombing, is just plain terrible.

Really bad thing to say.

We shouldn't be led into a conflict prematurely by bloodlust and emotion either. Now's not the time for it.

Exactly, why would we want someone who's using such childlike logic to lead us into a war in which only he'll benefit from?

there is no bloodlust and emotion here, simply a deeper understanding of the issues involved than many with an uninformed opinion.

Where are these experts and how did they get inside information on military strategy?

I can only speak for myself, and I have extensive knowledge of military and political strategy

Considering the cluster **** that any conflict could turn into, no politician in his right mind would choose to go to war. Who would want to go to war for the sake of it? Apart from Tony Blair, obviously...

Parliament Live

A Attack on the BBC who keeping using I.S.

What other option is there to deal with IS?

Negotiation? They despise us, they don't want anything we have, they don't need anything we have. They will never negotiate. So, what are you going to do ? Allow them to continue their murderous campaign? Raping, enslaving, mutilating...?

Thank God this country didn't shy away in 1939 after negotiations with a murderous regime failed.

Jeremy pushing the PM for a Apology
over what he said in private


Ref: Parliament Live

:laugh::laugh: They all look Pretty petty asking for an apology every time they stand up when he started the day off by firstly apologising.
Just wastes time.

Cameron gave way a lot more than Corbyn has. Can tell Jezza is in his element here though after all those years as a backbencher where he was lucky to get a 20 second contribution in a debate like this

He would make a better job of it if he could take his head out from his notes and look up, then again he stumbles over his words even when reading them.
Hopefully he is leader of the opposition long enough to improve on this.

He doesn't know what he's doing.

Borefest:sleep::sleep:

Why is Corbyn wearing a UKIP tie?

If he does ever decide to give way instead of insisting on his speech..the penny might drop that it is meant to be a debate.:joker:

Corbyn is trying to make this about Syria and a political settlement there. That doesn't affect ISIS and the terror acts that they commit. The guy is a fool

That is all fine and dandy for you with respect when you are not one of the people being termed a terrorist sympathiser when you are not.
Your glorious PM said terrorist sympathisers,plural.

If you think that worthy behaviour and response from a serving Prime Minister of the UK on the eve of such a vital, soul searching debate on going to 'war' again.
Then that is for you obviously, for me it is massively insulting and he should have apologised and in fact been made to apologise unreservedly.

That's a surprising flippant generalisation as to what the Country may think with respect, no doubt it will get many claps from many on here.

I have no idea what the Country may think as to this, nor would I guess too, we had an opinion poll fired at us on here 3 days ago which said the Nation was well in favour, we have today a poll saying they are against.

I also think it a disgrace that the Conservative MPs cannot vote with their consciences and I am sure you know many as I do that would have loved to be able too as well.

I actually could think the support the PM gets tonight will actually be likely disproportionate to really what the UK citizens feelings might be as to this but that doesn't matter as long as he gets his way.

I heard nothing today from the PM to clear the reservations I have,if I was in the Commons as an MP which I am not before you say it,I would now at this moment be leaning to vote against.

I hope to hear from people like Rory Stewart and people of his more consensual and decent approach from all Parties,who actually have experience and knowledge of the Middle East.
No one should be forced to vote for conflict or war except with their own consciences,I will never agree any other vote is the right way to debate and vote on this.

what cameron said was pretty disgusting really

Yes, I agree and I also think even moreso after hearing his speech today, that he is still intent in regime change, if he can find a way to sneak it in, thereby being at odds with Russia at this time in that instance.

What's that saying about too many cooks spoiling the broth sometimes there can be too many around doing things and things then get worse or ruined.